[throwaway2990]

Between this and Elon saying that AI needs to be paused for discussion is super harmful.

People forget that if you pause it. People are not going to stop. Does the world want Russia and China to continue investing and developing while the west discusses what the scope of ai should be allowed to do? Because they sure as hell won’t be stopping to discuss anything.

[ChatGTP]

“if we stop Russia and China”, what really is this based on?

Like as if Russia and China are just full of idiots and all the Chinese and Russian AI scientists are idiots and don’t understand our point of view. Don’t understand how risk or dangers? Like as if the leader of China is an idiot who doesn’t get it either ? It’s just ridiculous.

So what if America developed something really powerful in isolation and other countries find out about it, that may lead to immediate escalation and world war 3 , have you considered that? It’s a silly idea.

What needs to happen is people realise we’re all humans, we all live together in the same biosphere and rather than continue to perpetuate and justify arms races, we must start to talk and solve our differences. That’s the mature thing to do. If we can get to that stage, maybe then we’re ready for more advanced technology.

[throwaway2990]

> So what if America developed something really powerful in isolation and other countries find out about it

This isn’t about America. America is not the only country working on AI. But if you stop all AI development in America and say europe because “oh it might be dangerous”. Do you think other countries, for example, China and Russia, are going to stop?

> What needs to happen is people realise we’re all humans, we all live together in the same biosphere and rather than continue to perpetuate and justify arms races, we must start to talk and solve our differences. That’s the mature thing to do.

100% agreed. But the sad fact is that is not even close to the reality we live in.

[ChatGTP]

if you’re referring to the letter regarding a 6 month pause, no one suggest all AI development was stopped, they asked for a pause on training LLMs at scale.

[throwaway2990]

Elon caused for a pause in AI training.

[ChatGTP]

https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experime...

If you're referring to this, which is what I'm referring too, it says "Giant AI experiments" not a pause in all AI research. Where did Elon say that ?

[throwaway2990]

From your link

> Therefore, we call on all AI labs to immediately pause for at least 6 months the training of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4.

The ironic thing about your link is it tries to say this doesn’t mean to stop development. But testing is part of development so the whole thing is short sighted.

Asking for any kind of pause is flat out dumb.

[shrimp_emoji]

Can we just forget gunpowder and go back to tercios? That was when wars were fought by men, with skill and honor and bravery!

[nhinck2]

Are you attempting to argue that successful gun control isn't beneficial to society?

[nullsense]

What might even be the endgame of the CCP and the Kremlin with respect to AI?

This tech is getting increasingly powerful. They don't necessarily want their own population to gain more individual power as they themselves don't want to lose control.

[throwaway2990]

> What might even be the endgame of the CCP and the Kremlin with respect to AI? > This tech is getting increasingly powerful. They don't necessarily want their own population to gain more individual power as they themselves don't want to lose control.

They don’t need AI to control their citizens. And AI isn’t going to help their citizens rebel against government.

You have 2 countries hell bent on being the most powerful countries in the world. By any means necessary. One is currently invading another country. The other has 18 border disputes, threatening to invade a country, encroaching on a couple of others, and threatening the US.

The question is, how can the continued advancement of AI help them achieve their goals if the rest of the world hits the pause button while the topic is discussed?

[nullsense]

Russia is under extremely heavy sanctions and doesn't have access to the GPU clusters to do the work required, so I'm not worried about them.

I thought there were also some export controls to high end chips on China too?

Also, as human beings are they not concerned about the potential for danger to themselves that this technology may present? If not, why not?

[sangnoir]

"Mr. President, we must not allow an AI gap!"