[doubled112]

There's a mini roundabout in my neighbourhood. It is about the same size as the intersection it replaced.

They just leave the middle flat so vehicles that don't fit (and people who can't be bothered to go around) can drive on it.

[loeg]

If people just drive over it, it isn't doing anything.

[jerlam]

May even be worse as now you have two sets of drivers, using the same roundabout, but with completely different expectations of each other.

[doubled112]

Stops signs don't do anything in my neighbourhood either.

Can't fix crap drivers, no matter how hard we try.

[loeg]

> Can't fix crap drivers, no matter how hard we try.

A roundabout that is elevated and can't be driven over does actually change behavior. Average driver behavior is actually something we can improve!

[doubled112]

I have to say I agree with you on the roundabout. Nothing changes a driver's mind like a square curb. That particular intersection didn't have space though, so they installed that abomination.

Changing driver behaviour though? I'm pretty negative about it.

I get honked at regularly for stopping at those stop signs. The police head to Twitter and make fun of a few drivers a week for stunt driving. The city is opening a new processing centre because they can't handle the load of the speeding tickets from the speed cameras.

Yet I only see more and more aggression out there. People drive like they're the only ones on the road.

It's a 40 minute walk, one way, from my door to the nearest store. As much as I'd love to avoid the situation altogether, I don't have time to walk. Forcing people to drive everywhere is probably part of the problem, though.