[zamnos]

> MS still lacks a industry leading 21st century consumer device

The XBox division doesn't count?

[VWWHFSfQ]

I don't know any numbers but I would guess that Xbox is not close to being the market leader. Sony has that wrapped. Xbox is probably closer to Nintendo. They do, however, have a competitive platform which is important. Something they could never do with Windows Phone.

[ginko]

> Sony has that wrapped

Nintendo sold 4 Switches for every PS5 on the market.

[felixg3]

Given the price stability and the hardware specs, probably also a higher profit per device.

[jayd16]

Successful but not perhaps not dominant.

That said, they have more market share vs Playstation than iOS has over Android.

[froggychairs]

Video game consoles are technically 20th century invention. Xbox is just a continuation of that legacy even if the brand started in 21st

Xbox also isn’t top dog among the big 3. They’ve really struggled to ship big exclusive system sellers (which is a bummer. I’m a big fan of a lot of Xbox IP), so they certainly aren’t “industry leading”. Doesn’t mean the exclusives they’ve shipped aren’t good. They certainly are, just that their is no Xbox answer to God of War or Last of Us

GamePass is one of the biggest success stories to come out of Xbox and is certainly the dominant game streaming service

[seanhunter]

It's hillarious how the public perception differs from reality on console sales.

Mario has everyone else smoked[1].

[1] A bit out of date but see https://www.statista.com/chart/26122/estimated-lifetime-sale... where in 2021 nintendo were selling more switches in Japan only (their 3rd biggest market) than the worldwide sales of both Xbox and PS5 combined.