[JumpCrisscross]

> You are far more likely to get hit by a bike than a car

99% of pedestrian deaths result from collisions with cars, not bikes [1].

> electric "bicycles" are actually just electric motorcycles with auxiliary pedals and as such should require a license to drive

99.9% of “motor vehicle collisions that resulted in injuries [in 2018] were caused by e-bikes” [2]. A link is provided to the data; I doubt they’ve materially increased.

I share your frustration with bikers ignoring traffic rules. But dangerous bikers, even e-bikers, pale in consequence to cars.

[1] https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/nycdot-pedestrian...

[2] https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2019/04/18/damn-lies-and-statist...

[n0us]

what-about-ism doesn't persuade me at all, just because cars are dangerous and obnoxious doesn't justify the poor behaviors and culture around bicycles in the city.

An "e-bike" that is going 25mph and running red lights without anyone doing any pedaling at all is a motorcycle end of story and they should be banned or require a license.

[JumpCrisscross]

> just because cars are dangerous and obnoxious doesn't justify the poor behaviors and culture around bicycles in the city

Not whataboutism to compare the substitute folks would turn to if we banned bike lanes as you suggest, but whatever. Two pedestrians died due to bike collisions in 2021. How many emissions did New York City bikers collectively save us that year?

> An "e-bike" that is going 25mph and running red lights without anyone doing any pedaling at all is a motorcycle end of story

We don’t ticket motorcycles for running red lights either! You’re upset about traffic enforcement. Not any particular mode. If anything, that you’re noticing the bikes while remaining alive says something about their relative safety.

[systemtest]

Those numbers should be normalised for a fair comparison.