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by tp34 1146 days ago
Do you need to look at your computer mouse to "click" the button(s)?

Assuming you possess this basic competence, I find myself wondering how you managed to purchase a vehicle with such absurd ergonomics.

You have a strange, poorly designed vehicle

This "big dashboard full of buttons." Please provide a picture. Is this a custom design?

"For me, when things get dangerous, its [sic] when pressing the button (physical or touch) doesn't do what its [sic] suppose [sic] to do."

What actions are you referring to? Changing the audio volume? The interior fan speed?

You may want to consider researching your vehicle purchases more rigorously.

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>What actions are you referring to? Changing the audio volume? The interior fan speed?

This entire thread has me wondering the same thing. I've owned many cars and drive far more than average. What are y'all adjusting so much that's causing issues here?

If we exclude infotainment, which even the best have lousy driving ergonomics, you need to be able to turn wipers on/off (most are automatic now), turn the HVAC up or down (many you can just leave at a single temperature in more modern systems) and turn your headlights on/off, high/low (these have been automatic in the last few cars I've owned). Most other things should be adjusted before you start driving.

What are you having to adjust, outside your music, that's so difficult?

Some things that I personally have have had to do include adjusting the HVAC to have full output on the windscreen on a hot setting, enable the rear demister / mirror heaters or turn the hazard lights on. The windows or mirrors steaming up is a visibility issue and is dangerous if you allow it to occur.

This may not be needed at the start of the drive if people's breath gradually steams up the windows or the weather changes. I have noticed that passengers from warmer climates probably don't have the same problems as they didn't understand this and were complaining at me to turn the fan off.

Though I always buy cars with physical buttons that are in ergonomic places and wouldn't buy something with a touch screen. I am also not sure how a touch screen would work with the thin gloves that I wear in winter when driving to work in the early morning.

The front/rear defogger should be 2 buttons, with the mirrors coming on with the front normally (at least in the cars I have driven).

Hazard button is pretty hard to miss in every vehicle I have entered

Do you find those difficult in your vehicle's layout?

Cruise control.

HVAC--it does not compensate for ambient sunlight. What I want while driving in the sun is very different than what I want driving at night.

I do not have automatic wipers or lights. I have driven cars with automatic lights and I found them wanting.

Volume.

These are all the controls that I use while driving, and these are pretty consistent for other cars I've driven (these are just off top of my head - I'm sure there would be more if I looked). And my car is fairly old at this point. I've driven newer rental cars that have a lot of extra features.

- Climate Control: -- A/C On -- Circulate / Outside Air -- Temperature Up -- Temperature Down -- Fan Speed Up -- Fan Speed Down -- Dual Mode -- Dual Mode Controls ( 4 buttons - Repeat the temp/fan buttons for passenger side) -- Front Defrost -- Rear Defrost

- Lights: -- Headlight mode -- Light dimmer -- Brights on/off -- Foglights on/off -- Flashers on/off

- Driving -- Gear Shift -- Turn Signal -- Cruise Control --- On/Off --- Set/+ --- Resume/- -- ESC (Electronic Stability Control) on/off -- Tripometer / info - check mileage to empty / range / etc

- Wipers -- wiper speed -- spray -- rear wipers --- spray

- Entertainment -- On/Off -- Volume Up -- Volume Down -- Mode (Switch between radio/android auto/sirius/etc) -- Next / Radio Tuner Up -- Previous / Radio Tuner Down -- Radio Presets (6 buttons) -- Play/Pause

- Calling / Voice -- Initiate Voice Command -- Answer call -- Hang up / Decline call

- Mirrors -- side mirror switch left/right -- side mirror adjust

- Windows -- front driver window up/down -- front passenger window up/down -- rear driver window up/down -- rear passenger window up/down -- window lock

- Locks -- lock/unlock