[hutzlibu]

I am still not sure if 1984 is a net positive. It was supposed to spread awareness of the dangers of surveillance and totalitarian states, but sometimes it rather seems it provided a blueprint for those organisations on how to use power effectivly. /s

[dathinab]

sarcasm sure,

but I don't think anyone does read Orwell and is like "oh that's a good tool of manipulation"

because they have many more ways to find the same tools but in a context where it's packed into a "this is for (the grater,your,your peoples) good" package instead of a "this is a dystopia" package

[hutzlibu]

Did you read the whole 1984?

It is exactly about this "this is for (the grater,your,your peoples) good" or rather it is about total control of the information space that indeed everyone thinks, whatever the party is doing is good.

No one is living in a dystopia there. They are living in the best of the best worlds. And everybody thinks and believes that.

It is an examination of power and control mechanism. Power over the mind of people.