[Mandatum]

We're only just starting to see Arc mature, and their line is looking incredibly impressive given their success with optimizing Cyberpunk.

On the CPU front though, it seems they're continuing to lag. I suspect they may have over-invested into GPU's when mining was booming, and the risk isn't paying off.

They'll be back, but I don't see them being a major competitor for many more years outside of commodity and Enterprise business. Which, as a company, is a great place to be. But I really don't care.

[porknubbins]

Aren’t 12th and 13th gen Intel CPUs going toe to toe with Ryzen 7000s and sometimes with more cores/$ (albeit some efficiency cores)? Thats what I see anyway, I heard AMD is winning over the server market but don’t follow too closely there.

[qball]

Yes, but the problem with Intel CPUs is that they have to pull significantly more power than AMD does to get that performance- that's kind of why they have E cores and have to provide more P cores per dollar by comparison.

[justinclift]

Pretty sure it's only the 13th Gen, not 12th.