[VoodooJuJu]

A lot of people fooling themselves here.

Look, no one likes to feel like they're wasting their time, but with modern jobs, with the common "butts-in-seats for 8 hours" rule, we do waste a lot of time - much of that time is spent not working. It's dishonest to say that it's all spent working and I believe it does damage to a potential future where the "butts-in-seats for 8 hours" rule ceases to exist. If we value our time, let's start being honest, because then maybe that silly 8 hour rule can go away some day.

[bjourne]

I think this very much depends on your definition of "working" and "wasting time". Participating in this debate on Hacker News is not "wasting time" if I get something out of it. Regardless of whether my employer profits from it or not. I believe the meaning of the verb "working" should be reserved to mean "full-filling your part of an employment contract with an employer". And that I'm doing right now. Other activities that may or may not be related to "working", such as writing code, should be called "coding", "programming", "hacking", etc. So it is true that I'm not "coding" eight hours per day, but it is true that I'm "working" eight (or more) hours per day.