[rad_gruchalski]

> THE ONLY sports governing body that has figured this out (for sports I like, anyway), is F1.

No. The only ones who figured it out is the NFL. F1 shafted Germany after youg Schuhmacher came into F1 and German Sky bought exclusive rights.

The NFL? Intl Game Pass €190 per season live streams, instant repeats no adverts, various show, dedicated tv apps, no limit on number of devices, high def.

[lotsofpulp]

In the USA, there is no way to simply pay the NFL or even any other entity to stream every single game.

American football, ice hockey, baseball, basketball all have “black out” games and other bullshit, plus many times require a secondary subscription to a “TV” subscription, where you then have to hunt down which media provider is streaming the game.

I would rather save my time and just not watch sports. Only US soccer is decent because you can simply pay Apple and guarantee watch all the games.

[evanreichard]

> I would rather save my time and just not watch sports. Only US soccer is decent because you can simply pay Apple and guarantee watch all the games.

This is exactly where I am. I grew up playing sports and I do enjoy watching them, but I never had TV growing up (thus never got "hooked"), and having to play the blackout game absolutely infuriates me.... so, I just don't watch.

Not opposed to paying by any means. In fact this post has informed me of F1 (in USA) and Apple TV+ (MLS) having no blackouts, so I actually just purchased F1 [0] (already had Apple TV+).

So I know I'm only a single person but F1 earned a purchase from me because of no blackouts.

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[0] https://i.imgur.com/zs45cZp.png

[emacdona]

Ah, sorry then :-(

F1 is great in the US. I can't speak to NFL -- I don't watch it. However, I suspect it may be a better deal in Europe (where they are trying to get new fans) than in the US (where it's one of, if not "the", most popular sports).

This is similar to GCN+ for cycling. In the US, it doesn't get you much -- but from what I understand, in some (most?) European countries, GCN+ gets you most (if not all) UCI cycling evnets.

[MrGilbert]

I think the same applies for F1 in the US. F1 is still quite popular in Germany, although they pulled the trigger on that when RTL (German TV station) quit broadcasting F1 races in Free TV after 30 years in 2020, simply because it was too expensive. As GP stated, Sky Germany took over, and they are charging 30€ per month. It's eye-watering to see that the F1 Pro subscription costs just under 10€, but is of course not available in Germany. Last year, it was possible to register via VPN and sneak your way into the subscription. Not sure if it's possible this year, as I didn't renew it.

[oatmeal1]

FWIW GamePass in the US is cheaper, but godawful software that will, for example, force you to clear your cache and log back in every time you want to watch another game. Every year it gets a fresh new look, removes a couple features, and adds bugs. It's the worst software I've ever used.

[toxic]

Does GamePass in the US stream games live?

Because GamePass outside of the US does (in addition to the on-demand and condensed games and "all 22" stuff that the US GamePass gets). It's kind of like NFL Sunday Ticket but delivered by akamai instead of satellite.

[oatmeal1]

No live games :/

[probablynish]

I think this is country specific. F1's service in the US is great, but the NFL international game pass isn't available to people who live in the US, it's not as easy to watch domestically.

[rad_gruchalski]

F1TV in Germany was great, too. Until they shafted Germany because someone put money on the table. That’s what I mean.