[ethanbond]

The US is in a perpetual state of internal turmoil. "The good ol' days" never existed. It's very likely the other side of the same "dynamism" coin that produces much of the innovation/growth/power that the US has accumulated.

The Vietnam War was a domestic crisis that involved thousands of domestic terror bombings all across the country, for example.

[potbelly83]

Yep people who think the US was once some stable well run country need a good history lesson. This comes from an immigrant to the US happy to grow old here.

[courgette]

Sure. This has been a shit show since inception.

And just looking at any US city outskirts is telling.

Also, let’s remember the position of the US in both early WW1 and Ww2. Faschism & racism are not new additions.

But is it getting better? How is the trend in regard metrics like Gini coefficient and wealth repartition?

What is better before ? Yes, until the 80s, the IRS and middle class were still a thing.

I wonders what will happen to channel future discontentments. What would be the outlets.

My concern is that once it’s become absolutely clear that upward mobility is broken for most, what will be the recourse of the folks left over in the dust?

[tomcam]

> thousands of domestic terror bombings all across the country

The memory-holing of these bombings fascinates me.

[ls612]

Leftist terror violence doesn’t fit the narrative for today’s elites.

[courgette]

Oh I remember when terrorist were white and either super Christian, or at least raise Christian.

IRA of course, but also ETA or the Brigatte rosse in France, Spain and Italy.

What does not fit the narrative ? I see that narrative popping back in French news today with protests against specific water collection stategies ( not the retirement stuff, other protests ) being labeled as “eco-terrorism”.

It looks that any resistance to the capitalism model of land & resource management will be labeled that way going forward ( in France. in the US I’m waiting to see what happen with cop city near Atlanta. As of now nobody heard of it )

[ls612]

In the US the bombings and domestic terrorism and assassinations in the late 60s and 70s were generally done by left wing groups like SDS, weather underground, etc. I’m not as familiar with what happened in Europe around that time beyond the IRA.

[Teever]

Lynchings didn't happen in the 60s and 70s?

[courgette]

Leftist groups. Mostly. Leaning toward communism like the Red Brigades I mentioned. Their motto was bombing stuff, and kidnap/kill politicians. A famous group was “the Bader band” for instance. Acting between Italy, France, and Germany.

Then, they were the independentist group like ETA ( basque people ) and FLN ( Corsica )

Same modus operandis, but geared toward having France and Spain out of their places.

Thanks for the name, I will look those group up.

No right wing group in the US ?

We had some in France. For instance in 62 the “quarteron Francais” try to top De Gaule after he decided to let go of Algeria.

[ls612]

The right wing militia movement was in the late 80s to the mid 90s about 20 years later.

[Teever]

And those domestic terror bombings are equivalent to like what a day or so of what Europe experienced in world war 2?