[lexhart]

It's luxury in the financial sense because it's one of the expensive options compared to the competition.

Someone making 20 dollar can also afford to eat caviar, that doesn't make it mainstream.

Apple just made sure that it's spoons, forks and plates only accept caviar and not cereal or lasagna.

[scarface74]

If I walk into a store and buy the average Android phone for $300 on a no interest 24 month installment plan from T-mobile , I will be paying $12/month.

If I buy a midrange iPhone 13, it’s $24.95 a month.

That’s not even mentioning an iPhone SE that is still faster than high end Android phones for $429 or $17.95 a month.

And that “luxury” iPhone 8 (circa 2018) will have a better resale value and will get OS update for years still runs the latest OS and the iPhone 5s (circa 2013) has had a security update in the last year.

[scyzoryk_xyz]

These are all perceptions of status created by the marketing of these global companies.

Saying Apple is luxury is kinda like saying an Applebee’s is luxury - only because there is a cheaper McDonald’s across the street. Phones are definitely status symbols but their ceiling is relatively low.

That being said, in my country iPhones are a much more of a status symbol because everyone really is poorer. Scoffing at Apple’s pricing is the norm here.

[zamnos]

Globally, an interesting question is what happens if you take a date to McDonald's. Living in America, that's gonna be the end of your date. Meanwhile, it depends on where in the rest of the globe you're talking about. There are plenty of places in the world where that's a decent, if not high status place to take a date. (There are also non-America places where it's not, mind you.) (A McDonald's-date index would be a fascinating bit of sociology research.)

[scarface74]

So are people going to AppleBees only for “status” and not because the food is actually better than McDonalds?

Not everyone wants a $60 Blu R1 HD for $70 no more than everyone wants to eat off the $1 menu at McDonalds. Many people find the entire Android ecosystem janky.

[scyzoryk_xyz]

Both, I would assume.

I don’t know what a “Blu R1” is so I can’t bother to go off with you on that tangent. But my point was only that all of these products are designed and priced for global-scale mass consumption. Apple isn’t a Michelin-star restaurant. They’re about as much better as that difference in price is.