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by gojomo 1150 days ago
While I'm eager for people to be able to use leading-edge LLMs without associating their prompts with the real identity, this offering seems untenable.

It's at the mercy of OpenAI to throttle or disable the underlying access.

It's from an unclear team using crummy mealy-mouther likely-ChatGPT-originated copy. So why would anyone trust it?

It casts shade against OpenAI, claiming – contra OpenAI's own assurances about retention – that "ChatGPT may store data related to your queries and responses". But, it only offers the same non-verifiable assurances itself – with even less reputation, or opportunity to hold accountable for violations, than with OpenAI.

Overall, a service like this seems extra-likely to have been offered by sketchy operators, & mostly of unique use to people who want briefly get-away-with-something with regard to OpenAI's preferences.

There may be a place for such a service, but I wouldn't trust it or expect it to be useful for very long.

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>It casts shade against OpenAI, claiming – contra OpenAI's own assurances about retention – that "ChatGPT may store data related to your queries and responses". But, it only offers the same non-verifiable assurances itself – with even less reputation, or opportunity to hold accountable for violations, than with OpenAI.

I think you are confusing the terms of ChatGPT and the OpenAI API. OpenAI are uncharacteristically open about the fact that they are retaining and training on data collected through ChatGPT.

>We do not use Content that you provide to or receive from our API (“API Content”) to develop or improve our Services. We may use Content from Services other than our API (“Non-API Content”) to help develop and improve our Services.

That's an interesting angle, and barring explicit clarification from OpenAI, it'd be possible to see 'ChatGPT' either as an 'OpenAI API' (in a very general sense), or as not the same thing they mean by 'OpenAI API'.

However, I do see a help page (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is...) that specifically identifies ChatGPT & DALL-E as examples of "non-API consumer services", confirming your interpretation.

(It's nice that they let even users of those services opt-out of such reuse – if you trust their processes & assurances.)

As OpenAI also offers a 'ChatGPT API', separate in entry-point & billing from the consumer-facing subscription (or free offering), it's a bit unclear what retention/retraining rules they intend to apply to that. And, unclear whether this 'Incognito ChatGPT' is actually backed by the "non-API consumer service" web-brwoser interface, or the 'ChatGPT API'.

>It casts shade against OpenAI, claiming – contra OpenAI's own assurances about retention – that "ChatGPT may store data related to your queries and responses". But, it only offers the same non-verifiable assurances itself – with even less reputation, or opportunity to hold accountable for violations, than with OpenAI.

That's as may be, but I'm not interested in sharing my PII with OpenAI just to mess around (which is all I'm interested in doing at this point) with ChatGPT.

As such, I appreciate the opportunity to do so on this site.

Is it shady/meant for folks to do evil/not above-board in some other way? I have no idea.

Although I'd note that my first foray into using this site wasn't all that impressive. That said, I have nothing to compare it with, so perhaps it really is "wonderful."

IF it makes you feel any better, the site does perform CAPTCHAs and limits the number of queries allowed in a single session.

I'm not advocating for or against this (non-invasive WRT PII) interface to ChatGPT, I'm not sad it exists as it allows me to play around with it (albeit in very small doses).

“Overall, …”

As an AI language model, I see what you did there.