[photochemsyn]

A lot depends on your local educational system. Community colleges in California, for example, have suffered large budget cuts and many teachers have been laid off over the past few years so it's not a very attractive career. A program with few offerings is not attractive to students, either, so budget cuts tend to lead to enrollment drops:

https://www.communitycollegereview.com/blog/california-commu...

A main issue, at least in the USA, is that college is extremely expensive so smart students who don't want massive debt or who can't tap parental wealth can do two years of work at a community college (with smaller classes) before transferring to a four-year school, saving tens of thousands of dollars along the way. Some community colleges have reoriented around this goal to attract students, but the tradeoff is that continuing education for adults and other vocational programs often get cut.

Another problem is that public high schools do such an atrocious job at instruction that community colleges have to pick up the slack, so you have schools teaching basic algebra and simple reading/writing skills (i.e. 9th grade level etc.) to young adults whose primary education was a disaster. It's a pretty sad state of affairs, at least in the USA.

Note that teaching at a CC tends to require at least a Master's degreee in the field, and of course if you have large student loans the pay is to low to make any headway in paying them down. Incidentally, if you are planning to teach, LLMs have huge potential for new teachers to design a course with modern material. Of course grading students is going to be an issue and in-class testing is the only plausible alternative as LLMs can also write code and solve problems for students.

[pxc]

> Another problem is that public high schools do such an atrocious job at instruction that community colleges have to pick up the slack, so you have schools teaching basic algebra and simple reading/writing skills (i.e. 9th grade level etc.) to young adults whose primary education was a disaster. It's a pretty sad state of affairs, at least in the USA.

One of the advertising slogans of the community college I got my 2-year degrees from was literally 'no entry requirements', so offering remedial coursework was really important there.

When I tutored (math and computer science) there, I liked working with the remedial students. They were just as motivated as anybody, and it was satisfying to see concepts fall into place for them as we went along.

Those remedial courses can also be nice for advanced junior high students, or students at high schools that are crummy in specific STEM subjects, if their parents have the resources and time to get them there. Sometimes a dual-enrollment program also means that those students can get high school credit for those classes, and use them to skip certain classes at their high school or graduate early.

[anonymouskimmer]

> Those remedial courses can also be nice for advanced junior high students, or students at high schools that are crummy in specific STEM subjects, if their parents have the resources and time to get them there. Sometimes a dual-enrollment program also means that those students can get high school credit for those classes, and use them to skip certain classes at their high school or graduate early.

My state's dual-enrollment program allowed dual enrollment for the final two high school years. Drawbacks of the program were that, if you used some of your electives in the first two high school years, you can't both graduate high school and take a STEM degree at the same time. In order to graduate high school you have to take an English/liberal arts heavy course load at the community college to fulfill the high school credit requirements. So at best you could get a high school diploma and a A.A. degree, but not an A.S. degree. Even then, in order to take only a single year of dual enrollment, I had to skip taking any physics course (HS or CC). Taking two years was a non-starter - I would have had to have skipped math and advanced Chemistry to do that.

I would rectify the situation by either allowing dual-enrolled students to waive high school course requirements, and allow them to get a high school diploma just based on credits (or at least get a high school diploma as long as they also receive a 2-year degree). Or blatantly tell them that a high school diploma is irrelevant, for them, as long as they have an associate's degree, and to go for the associate's degree instead of the diploma, and just let them walk with their high school cohort at high school graduation and hand them a dummy diploma.

Also much better individualized guidance counseling on dual enrollment.

[anonymouskimmer]

> if you have large student loans the pay is to low to make any headway in paying them down

The Public-service loan forgiveness program has been revamped to make it possible to get loan forgiveness now. Most people whose sole income is adjuncting at a CC aren't going to be making any payments. Of course the side effect of going the forgiveness route is that it can lock you into a low-paying public job for years.