[huggyface]

Kind of hard to believe, given that iOS was and still is the only mobile OS with a browser that does not suck.

Yeah, I see John Gruber likes to say that.

It is, so to speak, horse shit. I apologize for the language but it's all that satisfactorily delivers my opinion on that. Have you ever actually used the Android browser?

[ugh]

Yes, and it sucked. I have been quite happy with the browser that comes with ICS, so I would say there's parity now. But nice job ignoring the actual point I was making.

[huggyface]

The point you were making was that the iOS browser is so superior to its competitors that it demonstrated Apple's commitment to the web.

Only the Android browser doesn't actually suck. I've never, ever heard someone actually describe why it sucks, they just repeat that going meme and smile and nod at each other. Yet despite all of its CSS chrome, many mobile dev projects abandon the effort and switch to an app after facing the less sexy, but deadly deficiencies in the iOS browser.

People are sure the iOS browser is great because they never actually use it. Instead they use apps.

[Cadsby]

"People are sure the iOS browser is great because they never actually use it. Instead they use apps."

I agree with some of your points, but as far as I'm aware every article I've seen on the subject points to iOS devices accounting for a large majority of mobile web browsing, so clearly a lot people don't think it sucks.

My personal experience using the Galaxy Nexus default browser for the last 2 months has been:

1. A bit more overall studdering when scrolling webpages than my iPhone. Nothing dramatic, but noticeable.

2. Double tap to zoom on paragraphs of text is really hit or miss. Half the time it zooms in incorrectly cutting off the edges of the text.

3. Embedded videos on a lot of websites refuse to play and prompt me to install Flash. On iOS they just serve up the html5 version and pay.

Overall I never found the default browser to be absolutely terrible, but I didn't love it either. Chrome beta has been a big step up in the last 24hrs already and am hoping this is where Google is set to put it's energy.

[ugh]

Huh? Why are you so sure that people don't use the iOS browser?

I use an RSS reader and the Twitter app (both pf which I also use on my PC). The rest (and majority of my time) on iOS devices I spend in a browser and I love it. The web experience on my iPad is awesome. I just don't see how Apple is hindering or sabotaging the open web with iOS. Sure, people like apps, but that's not unique to iOS, that's also true for Android. It's a property of native apps, not a property of Apple pushing native apps.

[nknight]

> Only the Android browser doesn't actually suck.

My two years on a Nexus One say otherwise.

> People are sure the iOS browser is great because they never actually use it.

What?

> Instead they use apps.

Last 8 apps launched on my iPhone: Safari, Messages, Settings, Flashlight, Mail, Phone, AirPhones, Kindle.

I spend more time in Safari than the latter 7 combined.