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by fnordpiglet 1148 days ago
I look forward to a world where we have 80 acres of housing rather than 80 acres of human hamster wheels.
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How many acres of housing would this have had? I honestly have no conception of how much space 4,000 people take up
The average lot size for a single-family home in California is roughly 1/5 acre, so 80 acres would be somewhere around 400 homes. Probably more like 300 after accounting for streets and stuff. Three-story apartment building are around 25 units per acre.
1/10 of an acre is a perfectly good size for a home, especially if you build several stories and a basement.

To say nothing of building 1+5 condos or even more dense highrise stuff.

It will probably end up just being one of the two founding dweebs latest mansion/estate or squatted on for eventual sale.

I look forward to a world where comments like yours get upvoted instead of downvoted.

Insightfulness adds value, particularly when it happens to be humorous at the same time.

Adding more housing is like adding more highways. It just replicates the problem.
Which problem? Of humans that aren’t homeless?
In the USA we have enough space to build over 100 times more houses than we have now. Much of that land is very cheap.

Why don't you build some houses and be part of the solution?

We should build more houses for, say, people working in the LA shipping industry in rural Minnesota. Miles of empty land!
True. We should house the ER nurses for LA in Death Valley. The line cooks at the Jack N the Box down the street can live in the Olympic mountains and the garbage collectors in NYC in the bad lands of South Dakota. Good plan!
Plenty of unemployed section 8 tenants will spend the next 40-50 years living in the same Los Angeles rent-controlled apartment. It's not necessary to have the productive members of society drive a long commute when the unemployed are living near jobs.

The notion that poor people (especially the unemployed) have the "right" to live in any neighborhood (even the most desirable) is crazy. Plenty of seniors living only on social security move out of California to a cost of living they can afford. Others cobble together a basket of benefits like Section 8 or low income housing lottery, disability payments (spurious), free health care, subsidized utilities, and snap. They end up with the same consumption level as your nurse or line cook without any job. I'ts not easy to get on all these benefit programs. It takes a combination of luck and tenacity.

The idea that LA could just pay it's poor people to live in Adelanto wouldn't work. This needs to happen at a state or federal level.

What's your plan? Wait for someone else lose a bunch of money for the greater good?
Build housing instead of office buildings.
You can put up a tent in my back yard if you want.