[sangnoir]

> For reference I work at a company that requires leetcode medium/hard perfection and am appalled at the money we pay for the engineers relative to the value they bring

Have you tried not paying that much and checking how much value you'll get in return?

Anyone who can write code can learn to leetcode (artificial time-pressuee aside). There's nothing that sets aside leetcoders from the rest of the engineering talent pool except that they put in the time (or have a competitive programming hobby). I haven't seen any evidence that leetcoders are worse in executing, compared to those that will not (or can not) put in the time.

Are companies laying off people people's they could not execute at the expected level? Or is it because of leadership strategic errors (over hiring)? Even if your assertion that engineers are overpaid is true - that is a failure of leadership. However, I don't see heads rolling in the C-suites, it's the fault of "macro-economic headwinds" they failed to see coming.

[the_overseer]

You just said that you see no difference between people that take leetcode and those who don't So why the hell use leetcode as a filter if it doesn't filter for anything?

[sangnoir]

Filtering for people willing (and able) to Leetcode is the point! When you have a large talent pool, you will have to come up with a filter; and there is also an element of luck involved - but I don't think interviewers or interviewees will be happy for an offer to be hang on a coin-toss.