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by 8organicbits 1150 days ago
I thought phone theft was still fairly common, although I have a hard time understanding how it's profitable.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/04/bathroom-tunneling-b...

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If you look at the cost of a new screen or battery you can see that parts do have some value. For a thief even $50 is a score.
Apples lockdown even includes hardware such as screens. You can’t just transplant an iPhone screen from one phone to another.
> You can’t just transplant an iPhone screen from one phone to another.

Why so? May be I can't but how difficult it for a repair shop?

Because all the parts are paired. Hugh Jeffreys has an interesting series where he buys two new phones and swaps the parts. Basically nothing can be swapped without breaking core functionality. Swapping a screen, for example, loses true-tone and auto brightness.

This can be fixed by replanting a tiny chip from the old screen to the new screen, requiring extremely precise micro-soldering skills that the average repair shop doesn’t possess.

Yep, absolutely true -- I worked on the project ("FDR / New Deal").

It was originally supposed to prevent a repeat of the Hon Hai Zhengzhou incident where a team of line workers mixed/matched parts from units that failed QC and sold the Frankensteined units on the grey market. (Massively oversimplified, but that's the general gist)

The resulting near-total inability to swap screens/buttons without knowing someone with FDR update access was seen as acceptable collateral damage.

By who? And did you see it that way?

If that project came my way, it would have been a hard no, go find someone else. You literally implemented the most public unfriendly feature I've seen in a long time. That's one of those cases where sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

While I understand we are all entitled to differently prioritizing ethical red lines, it saddens me whenever I see the public suffering for the sake of increased corporate profits.

...and it is only the company that gained anything. The extra parts on the market would likely have driven prices down, making the handsets less high dollar desirable theft targets. Instead; user servicibility plummeted, planned obsolescence ensured the path of least resistance was "buy another", and the accountants likely beamed at the improvement to the bottom line while the execs patted themselves on the back for a job well done securing money that otherwise "would have been left on the table".

Oh well. So it goes.

I don't see exactly how it happens. The first guy cuts the security cables, the second guy collects the devices?
Those are new in-box unactivated phones, completely unrelated to personal theft and activation lock.
It’s not related to personal theft, but to activation lock. Apple can (and will) lock these phones as well.
Is that something that is happening? I would have thought it would have been in the news before if apple had been doing that.
Oh yeah, good point. I can’t imagine how that’s worth it then…
They will sell the hardware to unwitting victims as new via eBay, Craigslist, … and disappear before the victim figures it out. It is a new iPhone in the original shrinkwrap - who’d become suspicious?
A cheap sealed boxed iPhone off craigslist or eBay seems like something I'd be suspicious of.
You'd be surprised.

If you mean "suspicious that it might have been stolen", the buyers are suspicious too, but they don't care, they're fine with it if it means they get it for cheaper.