[pigsty]

The interesting thing is Japanese companies generally manufacture cars they sell in America entirely in America, while “American” car companies manufacture their huge polluting machines in Mexico and maybe add one final part in the US so they can claim some work is done in the US. Japanese cars in the US aren’t imported while US cars are.

[fooker]

What are you talking about?

The vast majority of japanese brand cars are manufacturered in Japan and imported in the US.

[vlovich123]

I don’t know either way but DDG led me here [1]

> The largest automobile manufacturing facility in the world for Toyota, Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. (TMMK) is able to produce 550,000 vehicles and more than 600,000 engines per year. Two years after breaking ground in Georgetown, Kentucky,

> Where are the majority of Toyotas produced?

> The majority of Toyota vehicles you see on the road are made in your own country.

This does read like marketing material from Toyota itself so I don’t know if it’s the most trustworthy. So I look at [2]. Toyota makes 8.1M cars globally.

> the assembly of Toyota vehicles in North America came to around 1.75 million units.

So nearly 20% of worldwide production is assembled in the US. 2.3M cars are sold in the US [3]. So doesn’t seem unreasonable to say that the vast majority of Toyota cars are assembled in the US. It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s more broadly true for other Japanese manufacturers.

Do you have a better explanation of your viewpoint?

[1] https://gearshifters.org/toyota/where-does-toyota-manufactur...

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/267272/worldwide-vehicle...

[3] https://www.best-selling-cars.com/brands/2021-full-year-glob...

[zamnos]

Same for Honda. What's fascinating is the fact that Ford's manufacturing is less American than Honda, thanks to NAFTA but far be it to think a good ole fashioned American company like Ford would ever act like a corporation that's in it for the money, and move manufacturing out of the US.

The chickens came home to roost though, when the SEC declared a $196 million penalty in 2020 in import fines for the Ford Transit Connect, which was imported with a back seat, so it was considered a passenger vehicle for import tax reasons. Upon recieving the vans in the US, Ford removed the seats, turning it into a work van, and avoiding the import tax on work vans, something like 22%. Regardless of if it was clever of Ford or dishonest, the real point of my bringing up this story is those vans were made in Turkey.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2021/06/03/ford-...

[bombcar]

Much of this has to do with tariffs and point of final manufacturing can be key - so the question becomes if the car is shipped as a almost complete product and finalized or if it is sent as parts or if it built from local components. “Made in America” is not a simple question or answer.

[fooker]

The marketing trick here is 'assembled'.

Nothing major is manufactured here.

[pigsty]

At my previous job, I made the robots that Toyota, Suzuki, etc use in their manufacturing lines and directly installed them inside their factories. My experience is, for the most part, first hand.

The vehicles Japanese companies make for the American and US markets have no overlap. Nothing sold in America is made in Japan, and nothing sold in Japan is made in America. A lot of those vehicles are loaded up into tractor trailers and hauled off to their destination—Japanese tractor trailers that those manufacturers use aren’t large enough to haul American vehicles in Japan. Furthermore, the economics for manufacturing huge vehicles in a tiny country that can barely build for its own needs and shipping across the world wouldn’t make sense. The raw materials, energy, and real estate needed for the factories are simply far cheaper in the US.

[cactacea]

4Runners have always been made in Japan, I haven't looked but I'd be very surprised if they were the only model Toyota doesn't manufacture in the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner

[n4r9]

Not sure if this is the same thing, but the "local procurement rate" of Kentucky Manufacturing Plant rose to 75% in 1991: https://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75ye...

[kortilla]

Toyota Tundras are manufactured in San Antonio. A few miles away from Shibuya crossing.