[gt565k]

Somewhat related anecdote --

Executives at my company in a non-tech industry who are running a skeleton crew in the IT department are using the economy and tech industry layoffs to try and withhold bonuses and treating employees like disposable garbage.

They seem to think that the 2-3 people doing the work for 10 is OK and that somehow low key insinuating that current tech industry changes like chatGPT will replace our jobs, even though they don't know the difference between IT roles vs Software Engineer's roles and responsibilities.

I wonder if this is true for other non-tech company's IT departments where the execs are clueless in terms of how technology actually works.

If I had the financial stability to quit today and take a year off I would, hoping I can get there by end of year.

[toomuchtodo]

From https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5ygdj/dont-live-in-pity-cit...:

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Bad behavior doesn’t fix itself.

[willcipriano]

Become a software engineer, I was a sysadmin in my early career and I found it wasn't valued all that much by most organizations. The only place that was decent and gave me any autonomy, was the only one where I also wrote software for them.

[robopsychology]

Or DevOps?

[bityard]

I am primarily a system administrator (among other roles) and have been looking to make the jump into DevOps for a while. The main issue seems to be that almost no company hires for entry-level or intermediate DevOps positions, only senior with 5+ years experience of very specific tools. My guess is most of those get filled internally as lateral moves from regular developer roles.

[shrimp_emoji]

Some do hire entry level DevOps! There's a big demand for it, from where I'm standing.

Those roles indeed get filled internally by devs, but it's tough since I don't think most devs want them. :p

[toyg]

Go for consulting/body shops, they're always hungry for people they can pay as juniors while they're sold as seniors.

[varjag]

that's still sysadmin

[robopsychology]

Yes, but 'modernized' with generally higher salaries.

[toomuchtodo]

But also suboptimal work life balance.