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by badpun 1155 days ago
> I tell them- you're not going to college to get an education that is about knowledge out in the world. You are going to get an education about you. To learn about your person- your body, your brain, your own mental model of your self and other selves and the world.

You can do the same thing while on the job. Presumably, you could even learn faster, as you will be in a real-life environment, with real responsiblities, real people, real constraints etc. Whereas college is basically a bizarre form of retirement - a 4 year long "retirement" young people take before starting working. Yes, they learn some things there as well, but most of that knowledge is not needed and is just an excuse to spend time in college (for students) and to charge hefty fees (for universities).

Historically, US colleges were finishing schools for the wealthy - and now, most of us are wealthy enough to spend 4 years like this [1]. Unfortunately, since so many people finish college, a college degree is now a requirement for many fairly basic jobs - which means that not going to college closes many doors for people.

[1] Tragically, many people can only afford it through crippling student debt, which they take because they can't see the big picture at 19 yo. We don't allow 19 year old people to drink beer because they're too young to handle it, but we allow them to take on hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt... European (where I am from) solution is to just fully cover college from taxes. This way, we probably have even higher college attendance than in the US (i.e. even more wasted time and money in total), but at least the amenities are very basic and there's no parasitic admin overhead - so, I'm guessing we spend much less on higher ed per capita.

2 comments

> We don't allow 19 year old people to drink beer because they're too young to handle it

Oddly enough, most countries think that a person who is legally responsible for their own decisions is also mature enough to handle alcohol [0]...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age

I feel like this is not the right message to send to a 16 year old asking what the meaning of life is. Sure college is a scam and no 20 year old needs to go to a learning resort with a lazy river. But also, plenty of jobs are quite useful to go to college (although most of those are stem jobs). Like you probably aren't going to get into biotech, geo-engineering, physics, without at least one degree. Well I suppose you can do biotech without a degree if you are Elizabeth Holmes but she went to jail so maybe it's a bad idea.