[throwawayacc5]

Something even less benign than that, such as "men cannot get pregnant" is enough to be labeled a transphobe. If you went back as little as 15 years ago and told people "men can get pregnant" they'd rightfully laugh at you.

[Timon3]

What usefulness does that sentence hold? It is true that in our society some people who you'd socially describe as men are able to get pregnant, because they have biologically female sex organs. We also know that following their social wishes (i.e. referring to them as men) dramatically increases their quality of life.

Given these facts, can you really not understand why people see that sentence as transphobic? It doesn't accurately describe our social landscape, and it hurts some of the more vulnerable among us.

[throwawayacc5]

>What usefulness does that sentence hold?

What usefulness do objective facts and the truth hold?

>It is true that in our society some people who you'd socially describe as men are able to get pregnant

That is not true at all. It's actually a gross inversion of the truth, a foundational feature of Big Lies. There are trans-men, who are actually women, that may get pregnant, but they're by definition not men. They are human females, AKA women. No amount of cross-dressing and body mutilation will change that.

>because they have biologically female sex organs

Yes, they're women. Glad we agree.

>We also know that following their social wishes (i.e. referring to them as men) dramatically increases their quality of life.

"We also know telling schizophrenics that the coffee maker IS indeed an evil demon and removing them from the office will dramatically increase their quality of life."

No, feeding into delusions will not increase their quality of life.

>Given these facts

"Given the fact that the coffee maker is a demon".

>can you really not understand why people see that sentence as transphobic?

"can you really not understand why not believing that coffee makers are demonic is schizophobic?"

>It doesn't accurately describe our social landscape, and it hurts some of the more vulnerable among us.

It does accurately describe our social and biological landscape. If biological realities, truth, and objective facts hurt "the most vulnerable among us", it sounds like they have a mental illness.

[Timon3]

>> It is true that in our society some people who you'd socially describe as men are able to get pregnant

> That is not true at all. It's actually a gross inversion of the truth, a foundational feature of Big Lies.

Please read what I write carefully. I specifically said "socially describe". Do you walk through your whole life checking the genitalia of any person you interact with to make sure you refer to them by their biological pronouns? Or do you rely on social cues (e.g. their looks, outfit, hair, voice and so on) and assume their gender? I really hope it's the latter.

Now please read my earlier response again with the correct understanding of what the words I type mean.

>> We also know that following their social wishes (i.e. referring to them as men) dramatically increases their quality of life.

> "We also know telling schizophrenics that the coffee maker IS indeed an evil demon and removing them from the office will dramatically increase their quality of life."

> No, feeding into delusions will not increase their quality of life.

Can you show me studies that indicate this? I don't care for what you believe, I care about data and studies.

>> Given these facts

> "Given the fact that the coffee maker is a demon".

>> can you really not understand why people see that sentence as transphobic?

> "can you really not understand why not believing that coffee makers are demonic is schizophobic?"

Next time make sure not to go overboard with mocking the other person, or at least wait until you've made sure you understand them correctly. Since you fully misunderstood the opening of my earlier response this reaaaaally makes you look bad.

[amanaplanacanal]

The best our actual doctors (obviously not you) have been able to determine, yes it really does increase their quality of life. I know that doesn't matter to some people, but a lot of us do care.

[throwawayacc5]

>The best our actual doctors (obviously not you) have been able to determine, yes it really does increase their quality of life.

No they haven't, and you don't need to be doctor to know that.

>I know that doesn't matter to some people, but a lot of us do care.

Lot's of people care about factually incorrect things that go against narratives for sure.

[Timon3]

>> The best our actual doctors (obviously not you) have been able to determine, yes it really does increase their quality of life.

> No they haven't, and you don't need to be doctor to know that.

Do you have studies that indicate this, or do you just believe this to be true? The latter part of your response strongly points towards one side, but I'd like to give you the chance to send any contrary data, if you have it!