[hhhrmmm322]

You are obviously having enormous difficulty attracting good ops and infra programmers, but that's mostly going to be due to the obvious lack of respect and probably abysmal pay you are offering.

I would run away from an interview at a company you work for as fast as I possibly could just based on what you've said so far. And if I worked for you I'd quit.

Case in point, you seem completely incapable of understanding how your own lack of expertise and awful pay has driven all the experienced infra people to work for cloud vendors where they can get paid what they deserve and not have to grovel before a bunch of shitty javascript devs or equivalent.

Orgs like yours are trying to hire infra people the way you would hire a web developer. That isn't viable now and has never been viable. Infra roles are (or at least should be for any functional organization) more senior than product roles.