[sm_1024]

I'd expect bloatware to be unnecessary software. To a user who is not familiar with google's offering, the bloat doesn't exist, they don't see two different softwares. Samsung phones don't have two messaging apps, gallery, or phone app

Not including google's version doesn't equate to bloat. In fact, the opposite is true.

[rootw0rm]

If I have to resort to dev mode to remove things I don't need, then to me it's bloat. Those things aren't there in vanilla Android.

I'm still using Samsung hardware and I like it, but it's got a little bloat goin on