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Not the OP, but it's a debunking of a fairly long book (and associated claims by one of its authors), so probably not. While threads like this reliably attract HN's substantial contingent of so-called 'race realists', the consensus among experts is that Murray is wrong. Therefore I really think we should be putting the burden of proof on people who think this consensus is false.

Murray's claims should be evaluated independently of his personal flaws, but you can also get some idea of where he's really coming from by checking out his Twitter feed. As a commenter on the video perspicuously puts it:

> The best argument against people who claim that the Bell Curve isn't racist is the fact that Murray isn't some incorporeal being who manifested out of thin air, wrote the book, and returned to the ether. He's a real person with a Twitter account, and oh boy.

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among experts

...and the policies that lead to the situation in the article were also developed by "experts".

The amount of political ideology surrounding this stuff is immense. The truth is black and white (pun intended) but people don't want to see.

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So, a few comments down from a substantive comment by testfoobar, we've arrived at the inevitable comment saying almost explicitly that black people are dumb. If you want to just say this out loud, there are corners of the internet where you can do it. Hopefully this is not one of them.

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In other words, don't question the ideology...