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by jadodev 1167 days ago
> This was not a "knee-jerk" reaction, nor was it an attempt to spread fear or cause panic. While the document the foundation drafted did lead to the fork, we believe it is an overdue solution to a problem that already existed, and addresses some issues that many community members have had for some time.

This is obviously very knee-jerk and will either die or end up creating the same bureaucracy that Rust has. People love to complain about bureaucracy without understanding it exists for many reasons. The Rust teams are far more equipped to handle the development of Rust than anyone entertaining this fork (unless, of course, a significant number of members of the Rust teams decide to move over).

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> The Rust teams are far more equipped to handle the development of Rust than anyone entertaining this fork (unless, of course, a significant number of members of the Rust teams decide to move over).

As a form of protest against the silly Rust Foundation, a fork of the language which is simply a rebranded mirror of Rust sources would work.

so does this mean that people that use crablang are crab people... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykWPyaqbebo

Jokes aside, good to see this fork.

I guess you could say that this lets them sidestep the trademark restrictions.
The Rust trademark is proposal published literally to see what the community thinks. And the community thinks…it’s a bad idea.

So as long as the foundation changes their mind I really don’t think they‘ve done anything wrong, and anyone who’s said “the Rust foundation is trademarking the name ‘Rust’” or “the Rust foundation has trademarked the name ‘Rust’” overreacted.

If they listen to all this feedback and still move forward with the trademark, then they’re truly awful, since they, the leaders of this “community-driven organization”. just ignored 90% of the community. But that hasn’t happened yet, in fact all they’ve done is actively “seek community input” by publishing this draft.

> the Rust foundation has trademarked the name "Rust"

Just to clarify: Rust, Cargo and Clippy have already been registered as trademarks for some time now (AFAIK originally by Mozilla, with ownership transfered to the Rust Foundation upon its creation).

There is also an existing trademark policy, with the draft concerning an update to it.

+1. The reaction to the recent developments is in range of being a case of mass hysteria. Unbelievable levels of cringe and FUD being produced by a few prominent members of the community.
You are blaming the people who point out there is a problem, instead of the people causing the problem.

The proposed policy is terrible and based on the reaction of the people behind the proposal, they are fully determined to go through with it, which, to me, was very disheartening.

I see that a small part of the Rust community would love to blame it all on "Youtubers and streamers" without actually addressing any of their points.

The community, including many (not just a few) prominent members, gave detailed feedback on all the channels (see blogs, reddit, twitter and yt), and the only "rebuttal" of their points I hear is "stop the FUD", "you are not a lawyer so shut up", and "streamers drama".

Nowhere in your supposedly superior evaluation of the situation do I see a single of the supposedly cringe fud hysterical points addressed.

They all made specific points with the reasoning explained. If the reasoning was somehow invalid, you sure didn't show how.