[lsaferite]

Is PG&E electricity super cheap already or something? I pay 2x-3x the top tier they are talking about in FL for electricity.

[davidandgoliath]

.47c a kWh. Highest outside of Hawaii, third or fourth highest in the world.

You're not paying that in Florida.

[MrFoof]

For CA, depends very much on where you are. $0.47 is not the highest in CA, nor in the continental US.

Here in Boston, my rate is $0.14479/Kwh for delivery with a $0.33891/kWh supply charge, or $0.4837 per kWh. Yep, higher than you're paying. That excludes a fixed standing charge of $7/mo. About 53% of our base load (IIRC) is natural gas, so when natural gas wholesale prices spiked, so did our rates by 80+ percent back in October 2022.

My electric bill nearly doubled over the course of 6 weeks. I'm fortunate that over the years I had always driven my power consumption into the ground. Certainly paid off. Back in 2017, the rate was legitimately under half what I paid now.

Again, I believe there might be some parts of CA where the delivery+supply rate might be approaching $0.60/kWh at some points in time, but it'll be location dependent.

[maxerickson]

That's wild. My meter fee is like $15 and then my rate is less than $0.14 total, for delivery and supply.

Guess I'm burning coal.

I used ~200 kW-h last month, so at least it wouldn't ruin my life to pay $0.50 per. I don't have AC, so even with a gas furnace, the winter months tend to be my largest electric (running the blower and hydronic pumps).

[MrFoof]

Depending on where you live, it very well may be coal. Have a friend in Kentucky who pays about $0.105/kWh, but 70% of his electricity is coal powered.

[mkozlows]

This isn't a fixed rate "total bill," it's the fixed charge base amount onto which they then layer the variable usage-related costs.

[lsaferite]

That would make much more sense.

Here's my most recent bill detail FWIW

  Access Charge $27.00
  Energy Charge 1,000 kWh @ 0.0725 $72.50
  Energy Charge 725 kWh @ 0.0913 $66.19
  Power Cost Adjustment 1,725 kWh @ 0.0465 $80.21
  Subdivision Lighting Large $2.80
  Light PCA $0.37
  FLA Gross Receipts Tax $6.38
  Florida State Sales Tax $0.23
  County Sales Tax $0.05
  Operation Round Up $0.91
  Total Current Charges for this Location $256.64