[rektide]

Wouldn't it be great if cars would just send the car data out to phones?

People already have a very well configured device hooked up to all kind of extras with them in their pocket. I don't really known what Android Auto or CarPlay offer but my weak understanding is it's mostly a dumb screen & display... Maybe a microphone? If hvac & lighting & other auxiliary systems were also controllable some really pleasant well integrated experiences could be made.

And also the people riding in the back would have a much easier time being able to DJ.

Alas any and all data integrations imply they will almost immediately be used for a the worst ends. The old EU funded Webinos IoT system had a really neat pro-user model, and they had some OK car based demoes too before they closed up. There's just so little places where trust can even start today, & comparatively webinos was such a solid trustful/trustable go.

[bdcravens]

There's no real standard, though with more cars adopting Android Automotive (not the same as Android Auto), perhaps that will change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive

[rektide]

100%.

Android Automotive sounds it is it's own infotainment. I guess I'm more interested in getting the data out to users, to consume & use in different creative ways.

I thought webinos was so cool because it was a really interesting platform for exposing capabilites to users, who could then give different apps & services access. It was both a competent IoT platform, & one that effectively through encryption basically sent all data over VPN to the user, who then figured out what to do with it.

[rblatz]

So far my experience with Android Automotive has been a deal breaker. I rented a Polestar for a week and it felt like I was driving an android phone. Absolutely not interested.

[philsnow]

Car manufacturers don't want to get muscled out of "their" own market. It's like ISPs not being willing to be a dumb pipe and instead trying to upsell a dozen other services (bundled TV/phone subscriptions, ad blocking, etc).

They don't have to stop the crappy behavior because where are you going to go? Most addresses in the US have no more than one reasonable ISP available (some have zero). I'm just hoping that all the other car manufacturers don't rally around GM and announce they're all doing the same thing to try to capture/generate subscription revenue from their low-margin products.