[JohnFen]

> People with the impulse to create will do it regardless.

But they may not publicly release it. I've already removed my works from the public web, and I've heard from several others that have done the same.

[matheusmoreira]

That's OK. I don't publish everything I make either. Just stuff I actually want people to see and have access to.

[JohnFen]

No, you misunderstand. The stuff is still published, because these are works that people want to share. They're just not on the open web anymore, they're invite-only web spaces, or internet spaces that aren't web-based at all, because there appears to be no other way to avoid having them used to train AIs.

[matheusmoreira]

I have no problem with that. I'd like to warn you that this is essentially security through obscurity. Only one copy ever needs to make it out of that closed space. The more people in there, the higher the odds of that happening. Once it does, all bets are off.

[JohnFen]

That's certainly true. But compromises must be made. A solution isn't worthless just because it's not 100% effective.

The only other alternative would be to withdraw from society entirely, which is obviously not feasible.

[matheusmoreira]

There's also option to simply accept that you cannot own ideas. Let them go. Once I accepted this, I felt like I was finally free.

I released some software as GPL but truth be told I couldn't care less if someone violates it. I'm certainly not gonna waste my limited time on this earth going to court over it.

[JohnFen]

The problem comes when people actively don't want to further the training of AI. It's not so much about not accepting that you cannot own ideas as it is about not wanting to contribute to a thing that you believe is going to result in greater suffering for most people.