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by galaxyLogic 1157 days ago
> burden on other side to providing a definition of terms

The skeptics are really not making any claims are they? If not then there's no burden of proof on them, is there?

Whoever says or implies that ChatBots are or are "becoming" "sentient" are the ones making a claim. They should prove it if they make or imply such a claim.

Skeptics are rightly skeptical, until they see a proof with clear definitions of terms from those who are saying or implying that ChatBots are 'approaching sentience".
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FrustratedMonky 1157 days ago
Guess I'm saying that is done. The problem is there are a dozen definitions of "Sentient", and many people have already written proofs on how AI can be "Sentient", and there are just as many people have written proofs on how AI can never be "Sentient". It comes around to definitions and understanding of the definitions. To just toss out the "AI can be sentient" side because they have the burden, is just the same "It's so obvious I don't have to bother" judgment we've seen throughout history.
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galaxyLogic 1157 days ago
> toss out the "AI can be sentient" side

There are no two "sides" making claims about AI. There is one side, making claims such as "AI can be/is/may be sentient".

If somebody makes such claims they have the "burden of proof" because they are the ones making the claim. It's not a moral obligation to prove it. "Burden of proof" simply means if you don't provide a proof, nobody (I would hope) will believe you.

Note the skeptics are not making any counter-claims, they are simply saying if you make such fantastic claims about current AI, please show us the proof, else we rationally cannot trust your judgment.

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pixl97 1157 days ago
I'd say this is untrue.

Just as a made up discription lets say this

Them: "If $object does A, B, and C, then it is a bajork"

Me "I have $object that does A, B, and C, it is a bajork"

Them: "No, it also doesn't do D"

Me: "That's goalpost moving"

Them: "Well, it doesn't do B in the way we expected, so it doesn't really do B"

Me: "Maybe we poorly defined what B was in the first place, that doesn't mean we didn't do B, it seems to mean no one understands what B is in the first place"

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