[SV_BubbleTime]

"Where effective tool is available it's used"

Isn't really the gotcha you might think.

We know who uses guns to kill people, we know who they kill. You don't see those on the news because no one wants to talk about it.

Of the 10,000 murders or so per year with firearms, over 66% are drug and gang related.

[mhoad]

We both understand the concept that the US has more than 1 major social problem at the same time right and that other countries also have comparable levels of gang membership but wildly different murder rates.

[MrOwnPut]

So everyone who is currently killing each other with guns will see their enemy gang in the street and not decide to slash them because they are too lazy? They only wanted to shoot them?

It's the type of gangs in America, it's not about "gang membership" or whatever metric you're trying to throw out.

They shank people with tooth brushes in prison. MS-13 decapitates people with axes. It's the gangs, not the guns.

Chicago and many cities in America would be safer with more legal guns, less gangsters.

[mhoad]

It’s really difficult to pretend this is a serious comment.

It’s just so all over the place responding to arguments that no one ever made with a series of facts you seem to have taken from who knows where.

[bigtex88]

There's a lot of fascist-apologists on this site. It's truly bizarre.

[MrOwnPut]

Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a fascist!

I think you may want to look at history who confiscates guns.

[MrOwnPut]

Interesting, I feel the same to you.

[bigtex88]

How would Chicago be safer with more guns? Please explain this logic.