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by arcbyte 1159 days ago
They used to do public betas. I remember Gmail being labeled beta in the early days.
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Gmail was in beta for 5 years, from 2004 until 2009 — imho it didn’t make much sense to label something as beta when it is used by ~1B people.
i think it's about expectations
Thing is... imagine they had announced "Thanks for being part of the gmail beta. We learnt a lot, but have now decided to close GMail. You have 3 days to download your emails and find a new email provider".

A lot of people would have been very pissed off, even though it said 'beta'.

As I remember, it would have been very odd for them to do that in 2008 or 2009 when it was so immensley popular. But that was 4 or 5 year into it's life, well beyond the typical lifetime of Googles products.

Them shutting it down in 2005 or 2006 would have been annoying or disappointing like the shutdown of Google Wave but understandable.

It's all about brand expectations. Google is synonymous with unreliability because they don't have another brand to shoulder that association. It used to be "Beta" but no longer.

The point is that their "release stage" marking was always fantasy land. Yes, I would be pissed if they had shut down GMail after 4 years, regardless of whether it was marked "Beta", because by that point it had a ton of users and clearly a ton of investment.

A big problem is that nobody believes their designations anyway. GMail was in beta for years when it was obviously a mature product, while "Of course we're investing a ton in Stadia..." only to shut it down a couple months later.

I think its about copping out of any responsibility.

Sure, go ahead. But the market will take notice if you do that.

It’s impossible to go back in time and tell, but I bet lots of companies were opting for Microsoft Exchange/Web Outlook around 2007-2008, because Gmail was advertised as beta.

If they had removed the beta label sooner, they might have attracted businesses to GSuite sooner?

It’s a fine line to walk: you want to iterate quickly on one hand but some users need stability on the other.

right, that too. but i prefer the honesty of having the “beta” label than the lack of it.
Yeah, with unlimited storage for life. Acquiring userbase with empty promises is their M.O.
When was Gmail ever sold as unlimited? When it came out the big deal was that it offered 1GB, which absolutely destroyed the 5-10MB most free providers were offering at the time.

I recall a time where they were raising the limit constantly and even advertised that fact, that for most users your available space was going to increase faster than you could use it, but there was always a limit somewhere.

Wasn't it marketed as unlimited during invite-only beta?
No, 1GB was the starting point and was considered insane at the time. Then they eventually added a counter where the storage space grew all the time. They finally capped that out—maybe that's what you're thinking of?
My bad. I misremembered.
It was almost 20 years ago at this point, easy mistake to make.
Wasn't it originally 1 GB? Then they doubled it on April fools one year and started increasing it from there.
It even had a counter that was continuously incrementing (at the end by an incredibly low rate, but still)