[SpaceManNabs]

/b/, /vg/, /v/, /pol/ and sometimes /g/ all have strong alt right representation. (actually /g/ is still much more libertarian but you get some bleed in here and there).

Even /sci/ has changed. You have race IQ intelligence threads all the time compared to 2011. Instead of the daily Putnam problem thread, you get that garbage.

NYT is pretty on the money here.

If this were 2010, I'd disagree with them, but not nowadays.

disclaimer of my own bias: I stopped using 4chan in 2012 because of how much of an alt right mess it became after /r9k/. Didn't have the words to describe it back then. I remember people making endless Dragon Age memes in the pinned thread in /v/ in response to the mass shooting by a particular Anders in 2011. They were celebrating it, and it was the most active live thread on the site in that moment.

[gruez]

>Even /sci/ has changed. You have race IQ intelligence threads all the time compared to 2011. Instead of the daily Putnam problem thread, you get that garbage.

Is race IQ intelligence discussion really "garbage"? To my knowledge there isn't strong evidence confirming or disproving the theory, but the science on the genetic component of intelligence is pretty solid, and it isn't implausible that certain ethnic groups have genes that confer more intelligence, similar to how certain ethnic groups have genes that make them taller or better runners (see for instance, the olympic winners for sprints).

[arrakeen]

regardless of whether or not you think the topic is a worthy intellectual pursuit (i do not), the frequency at which it is discussed implies a racist agenda

[gruez]

And what's the frequency that doesn't imply "a racist agenda"? I went on skimmed all the OPs and found a few threads about intelligence/IQ, but couldn't find one with a racist bent.

[justrealist]

Most of these race/iq threads end up concluding that East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent racial groups, not exactly the poster children of white nationalism.

[dtn]

That doesn't mean shit. These conclusions nowadays on 4chan are usually used to affirm their belief of an extremely racist "Goldilocks" theory.

- East Asians and Jews are intelligent but lack creative thought and individualism (the terms hivemind and "bugmen" will often pop up here).

- I don't need to explain what they think about Black People.

- But White People are juuuuuust right

[SpaceManNabs]

there is also the narrative that these tests are designed by secret groups (ran by whom you ask?) to have such stack ranking to keep white people down and not realizing their true potential. i don't know how anyone sees racial IQ discussion and not realize it is always going to devolve into nazis.

[YarickR2]

Please define alt right, in your own words. It seems everyone claiming 4chan is right, far right, or alt right, means something rather different

[alternatetwo]

Alt right is a progranda term by neo nazis for neo nazis, so they don't sound like actual neo nazis.

Stop using the term alt right. Alt right means neo nazi. Nothing else.

[pnt12]

Not every racist is a neo nazi, not every leftist is a stalinist.

Lumping them together is a cheap tactic to aggravate people, which I think it's dishonest and not very effective.

[dragonwriter]

> Not every racist is a neo nazi,

True, American racists are, for instance, quite often neoconfederates. OTOH, the Confederates were among the direct inspirations for the Nazis, so in a sense that makes those racists Neo-Proto-Nazis.

[SpaceManNabs]

I am not going to play games with semantics when we can look at the state of the site now compared to before 2011.

Do you think that /pol/ is anything but some bastardization of right wing principles?