[vel0city]

I'd take even quintupling my odds of getting hit by a bike if it meant I eliminated the chance of getting hit by an SUV. I'd take getting hit by several people on bicycles in my life than getting hit by an SUV going 50mph once.

And yes, I've seen accidents with bikes hitting pedestrians. Most of the time the people ended up fine with minor bruises and sometimes small cuts.

I've seen pedestrians hit by SUVs. Its been rare to see people walk away from that.

[hdhuegau6hfhd]

what about the bike owner? does their safety matter? it is really not all about you.

[vel0city]

I've had many friends and I get into some pretty gnarly bicycle accidents as single bike accident, a bicycle to bicycle accident, or a bicycle to pedestrian accident. Normally just bruised, scraped, and maybe minor cuts. One or two broke bones. The only people I know that have died while riding a bicycle died because they were struck by a car.

I've lost several friends and family members to car accidents.

Once again, if I'm going to be in an accident I'd probably take an accident between two bicycles at 12mph than two SUVs at 40mph.

[autokad]

> 12mph than two SUVs at 40mph. 12 mph is the speed of a beginner bicycler. most bikers go faster then that. most pedestrians are hit by cars going under 40mph and SUV's only make up about 8% of the total market.

These facts don't disprove the idea that one would 'rather' get hit by a bike vs a vehicle, but the fact that you keep saying that nonsense doesn't help your argument.

> I've lost several friends and family members to car accidents.

I'm not surprised, 76% of Americans require a car to get to work. that's a lot of car trips.

If you don't like cars, don't drive one. I don't. But stop pushing your views onto others.

[vel0city]

I didn't realize stating that I'd rather be hit by a bicyclist over a car is pushing my views on people. I guess there must be people here who disagree and would prefer being hit by a car.

I drive cars a lot. The way things are around me, I pretty much need to. I don't personally really dislike cars, I actually really like cars and enjoy driving them and riding my motorcycles. I just can't understand people arguing like bicycle accidents are practically as bad as car accidents or that having people trade their cars for bikes will make people overall less safe.

Your number of SUVs only being 8% of the market is way wrong. Try 80% in the US. It's been around 50% or so for years. The vast majority of cars around me are trucks and SUVs. The one that killed a cyclist near my kid's daycare recently was going over 50mph on a 40mph road. I'd like to see some actual statistics about "most pedestrians are hit by cars going under 40mph" statistic. It would surprise me either way.

EDIT: Some data about speeds here, and yeah under 40mph to pedestrians is definitely the majority.

https://one.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/pub/hs809012.ht...

https://jalopnik.com/trucks-and-suvs-are-now-over-80-percent...

If fewer people drove cars, our roads will be safer and we would have less traffic fatalities. Do you disagree?

[TheCoelacanth]

I'm not going to get hit a car that I'm driving. I'm going to get by a car someone else is driving. I don't only breathe the air that is polluted by cars I drive. I don't only get flooded with the sound produced by cars that I drive. You are imposing your views on me by driving a car.