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by wittenbunk 1156 days ago
Your comment is suggesting that increased policing reduces homelessness and that welfare dollars are being spent on drugs.

Neither insinuation is supported by evidence.

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No. My comments are about drugs, misdemeanor crimes (e.g., theft), and homelessness. All run rampant in SF. I only attributed the first two to policing. Homelessness by itself is not a crime. I guess you feel otherwise for you to interpret it that way.

As for the welfare system, people are using EBT to buy bottled water, dumping the bottles out in the parking lot, then turning the empty bottles back in for cash through the recycling program. They use the money for drugs or alcohol. That’s one example.

People are not doing that. Real life is not the fox news segment you are describing. Either cite evidence for outlandish claims or they will be dismissed.
Dismissed by you.

I know you can't prove a negative or whatever but why are you so confident in your claim that no one is doing that, and why should we believe you? I dated someone who worked at a drug rehab facility and after hearing the stories she told me about the ways people there took advantage of the system, I have 0 problem believing the water bottle thing. I take these stories with a grain of salt, but to outright deny that anything like that happens is really just demonstrating your ignorance of the subject. Talk to anyone who has ever worked with homeless people or drug addicts and they will tell you some wild stories.

Theres literally videos of people dping this in droves. You cant just stuff your fingers in your ears and scream and claim you arent hearing anything.
in san francisco "wellfare" dollars are being spent enabling drug use and likey spent on drugs. The wellfare im talking about is not TANF money/fedgov wellfare but the project homekey hotels and the CAAP benefits program. Project homekey hotels are a great idea IMO, except that they didn't screen homeless tenants for drug use, and lots of tenants turned their rooms into drug dens, completely destroyed the rooms or entire hotels, and now the city is on the hook for a low 10s of millions of dollar amount to various private hotel owners for property destruction. Homekey is a statewide program in CA, not SF specific, and these issues happen all over the state. CAAP (https://www.sfhsa.org/services/financial-assistance/county-a...) is a program where the city and county of san francisco give 687 dollars a month in cash to low income housed and/or homeless people. Lots of the money goes to elderly chinese folks in chinatown and helps them make rent and pay for food, lots of money from this program also goes to drug addicted homeless or SRO residents in the tenderloin and gets spent on meth and fent the day the cash is sent. The open air drug markets are significantly busier on days that the cash is disbursed and you can see empty evelopes for distribution all over the neighborhood.