[nr2x]

I’m currently setting up infrastructure for a startup and it’s been very interesting how the threat model of data loss and disaster recovery is no longer hardware failure: it’s account lock out.

I’ve got streaming replication of my core data going from one cloud company to other company as that way if one has some antifraud system go rogue on me I still have access.

As somebody who used to spend a lot of time thinking about drives breaking it’s an interesting shift.

[rnk]

That's a very perceptive comment. It happens again and again and it's much harder to control for that, as compared to say making sure you are running in different amazon availability zones or something. If you wanted to destroy someone's service, probably getting them banned like you describe could even be easier than a DOS now. I worry about the day that google kills my gmail account for some random and never to be explained reason.

[nr2x]

Well, this site is a big reason I got the insight to focus on account redundancy over disk redundancy. Lots of posts over the years of people locked out from all the big clouds in a panic trying to see if an employee will see their cry for help on HN.

I do NOT want to be making that post!

[Aldipower]

Exactly. My main infrastructure is on Hetzner, but I have a live replication via Wireguard at another hoster in Austria. With less resources there, but for accessibility "in the case of".

[nr2x]

I’m also thinking about buying a second hand server and racking it in a colocation joint just so I can physically get the disk. The client data I have is super important, and there is some level of comfort you only get from bare metal.

[miohtama]

I would go further and have a small server/NAS running locally in an office. The best backup is one you sit on the top off.

[nr2x]

I literally have a Linux machine that I’m ready to rig up were it not for Comcast being my internet provider. Maddening to live in “Silicon Valley” and be dealing with dog shit data caps and speeds.

[Aldipower]

This does not pay out in Germany due to the high energy costs in private house holds or office spaces.

[Eduard]

With 0.40 EUR/kWh, running a beefy 100 Watt NAS setup will cost 0.96 EUR per day.

[Aldipower]

Yes, around 30 Euro per month. Now add the hardware costs.. And the internet connection costs (partly).. Anti-theft options.. In my opinion it is cheaper and more reliable to rent another dedicated server at another hoster for this. If you are sitting in Germany.

[meltedcapacitor]

For a "small server/NAS"?