[graddrisrp]

If we want to go forward we absolutely need to shut these fools down, the only solution proposed to the problem is, you need to be poor. I don't understand how people get on-board with it. From the outside it really looks like a cult to be honest.

Weirdest thing in my opinions is how much of educated people also fall in the scam as well

[eastbound]

Being poor is not enough. Your government, our government contracts debt to spend on your behalf, about 3x what you earn, and they build airports, wars, industries, city towers, running KPMG audits (probably the most CO2-intensive among all that) with your money.

You can be farming carrots and live like a hermit and still be funding the CO2 industry.

[Tade0]

Some stuff is truly limited. The other day I learned that China is a net importer of agricultural products and this has been the case for almost 20 years now.

It appears that their one child policy - something that would not fly in the west - prevented a major crisis here.

[lynx23]

After corona was pushed through, and given that the child-per-woman count is already approaching 1 in many western countries, I believe you are wrong. A one child policy could easily be pushed only with the right narrative and public opinion. Just declare big families as a climate disaster (they are) and let everyone know how irresponsible women with more then one child are. Bingo. People have been trained to look down on each other just recently, so use the drive and... outlaw children!

[lazyasciiart]

“after corona was pushed through”?

[lynx23]

"After corona was used as a testbed", better?

I realize covid-mandates were perceived differently from country to country.

Where I live, we first had a push for a general vaccination mandate, which was later more or less silently abolished because it turned out the promised efficientcy of the vaccines turned out to be not that high, and politicians silent, without explaining why, let the mandate plans slip back into their hiding place. As a result, we have pretty much destroyed any remaining trust in politics and so-called "experts" in the general population.

[account42]

You forgot the next step: Encourage mass immigration to fill all the holes your one child policy left.

[thriftwy]

That alone sounds like an enormous self-defeating ecological disaster, since anybody immigrating from India to USA or from Morocco to France quickly adopts the new, much higher, level of consumption and carbon emission. Nontheless, it is done on a grand scale with very few reservations.

[Tade0]

The Swiss ~voted~ proposed a vote on limiting the population number citing carbon emissions. Truth be told the largest groups of immigrants there are Portuguese, Germans and Italians, so if anything it's the other way around considering what kind of energy mix Switzerland has.

That being said I think countries should deal with their population issues on their own instead of relying this heavily on imported workforce.

France was largely successful at keeping their fertility rate only slightly under replacement, so it is possible.

Edit: Can't confirm if the referendum was ultimately scheduled.