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by andresp 1159 days ago
C# GC, MS and external libraries, build, docs, tools support (especially for Linux) are all worse than Java.
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jayd16 1158 days ago
MSBuild is actually really nice, haha. I wish Gradle was that simple.
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pharmakom 1159 days ago
How so? Linux is a first class citizen in .NET these days.
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pjmlp 1159 days ago
A first class citzen would have support for MAUI, and something better than VSCode like macOS gets VS4Mac.
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Kwpolska 1159 days ago
JetBrains Rider is available for Windows, Linux, and macOS, and it's much better than VS, VS for Mac, and VSCode.

It's not free, but VS isn't either for any serious commercial usage, and Rider is certainly worth the money.

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pjmlp 1158 days ago
Workarounds, and still doesn't fix the issues lacking from the company that owns .NET.
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Kwpolska 1158 days ago
What does the company that owns Java offer? Their Java IDE is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JDeveloper and nobody uses that. The latest release came out in 2019. Everyone is using IntelliJ IDEA or perhaps Eclipse.

What does the Python core community offer? IDLE is ugly, is barely an IDE, and didn’t have line numbers until a few years ago. Everyone is using PyCharm or VSCode.

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pjmlp 1158 days ago
IBM also makes Java, it offers Eclipse.

Sun made Java, it offered Netbeans.

As for the Python community, no one expects great tooling from FOSS languages, as you mention everyone is using tooling from two big corporations.

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MaxBarraclough 1158 days ago
NetBeans is also still going, although I don't think it has many users.
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jayd16 1158 days ago
Does Java even have a MAUI equivalent? There are other open source frameworks for GUI apps. This feels like goal post shifting.
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kaba0 1158 days ago
The point is cross-platformness and windows does have MAUI, so not having it on linux means it is not a first-class target.
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metaltyphoon 1158 days ago
MAUI is just another workload of the dotnet ecosystem. There is no technical reason for it not to work on Linux outside of someone actually doing so. This has nothing to do with C# at all.
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kaba0 1159 days ago
You don’t become a first class citizen overnight. Also, last time I checked .NET lacks something as trivial as an open-source debugger.
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Rapzid 1159 days ago
It's been many moons, also there is an OSS debugger produced by Samsung.
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papichulo2023 1159 days ago
Except for all ui-only windows-only stuff.
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