[zrail]

Children don't receive elective surgery. It's just not a thing, in any medical guidelines or ethics rules, anywhere in the country. Older teens, _extremely rarely_, are allowed to have top surgery, but it's case by case.

Children _can_ receive puberty blockers, which _by definition_ are 100% completely reversible. The process to start treatment is universally difficult and involves multiple years of therapy and concurrence of multiple medical providers over time.

Source: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/aug/10/ron-desant...

[the_doctah]

>There are no examples we could find, or the governor's office provided, of transition-related surgeries for people under the age of 14.

14 isn't a child anymore? Your left-leaning political fact checking source sucks. Here's some reading for you. Do some real research.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11377391/Age-just...

[account42]

> Children _can_ receive puberty blockers, which _by definition_ are 100% completely reversible.

This is such an absurd statement. You don't "define" how the body works.

[Timon3]

Did he say so?

[transcoderx]

No, puberty blockers are not 100% reversible and they are not harmless, either. Surgeries are not rare, either - at least it is debatable what should be considered "rare".

[altacc]

Risks are comparative, moral panic is not and ignores this. Banning something because it is not 100% harmless is just not something that is done without extra considerations, such as a moralizing. E.g. Pain killers cause significantly more societal harm than puberty blockers but are still widely available.

As to the real risks, time and again it has been shown that the comparative risks of a) receiving puberty blockers vs b) growing up a gender you do not feel you are, strongly points to puberty blockers being a significant net benefit. Those taking puberty blockers rarely regret it; whereas those growing up a gender they do not identify with mostly regret it are are significantly more prone to abuse, mental health issues and suicide.

[transcoderx]

No it hasn't been shown time and time again. Look into the actual studies, and not just into the ones the trans lobby presents.

The issue here is manipulation of children. If children were fed tons of harmful pain blockers, there would be a "panic", too.

[zrail]

Kids get fed mountains of acetaminophen every year. Why do you suppose that acetaminophen packages have prominent warnings about not exceeding dosages?

It's because acetaminophen is extremely hepatotoxic at levels not very far above the recommended dosages.

> Hepatic injury and subsequent hepatic failure due to both intentional and non-intentional overdose of acetaminophen (APAP) has affected patients for decades, and [...] remains a global issue; in the United States, in particular, it accounts for more than 50% of overdose-related acute liver failure and approximately 20% of the liver transplant cases.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4913076/

I would assert that acetaminophen is far more likely to be dangerous to far more children than puberty blockers and yet I don't see any moral panic over children's Tylenol.

[transcoderx]

Are you saying doctors routinely overprescripe Tylenol, but they never err when they prescribe puberty blockers? Because of science?

[transcoderx]

Do you know of many cases of children being mutilated for life from Tylenol? Also your assertion is just a wild guess.

[themitigating]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3383545/

[vincnetas]

Do you have numbers on surgeries. Im curious how "not rate" are they.