[ipaddr]

"use will only repeat an idea that many someone's have written about, such that it's seen the idea, or parts of that idea many times"

As you go narrower with a query only one source of truth is available at that point it does plagiarize.

[grayhatter]

Very interesting, any chance you've got a citation for this? I'd like have some sort of proof next time I tell someone that they will happily plagiarize from single sources.

[schwartzworld]

Even if it's not copying word for word, if it's not citing its data, it's still plagiarism. Plagiarism includes copying ideas without crediting their source.

[grayhatter]

so no way to prove this claim isn't something someone made up one day?

[schwartzworld]

Here's a counter question:

Have you ever seen chatgpt cite or credit it's sources?

[grayhatter]

I don't (yet) believe that what chatgpt does requires citation to be ethical/honest.

[schwartzworld]

It may depending on the source material it uses. Especially if you're publishing that material.