[iLoveOncall]

There is nothing in common to what you mention with Microsoft and Google.

Microsoft was the butt of the joke of literally everyone that had every used a computer. There were countless memes about how bad Windows was, made by people with 0 technical literacy. Your grandma had probably heard about Windows Vista sucking, despite not knowing what it was.

Almost nobody outside of HN has a similar experience with Google products.

You are in the same echo-chamber as the original commenter.

[heavyset_go]

> Almost nobody outside of HN has a similar experience with Google products.

YouTube's algorithm and recommendations are both memes and well analyzed in popular media, and people who have only ever used phones and iPads know to add "reddit" to their search terms to sort through the garbage Google would show them otherwise.

There are also office workers and consumers who have been burned by adopting Google services, like workplaces that adopted Google products for chat and voice/video, or by buying Nest products or investing in Stadia.

[frognumber]

> Almost nobody outside of HN has a similar experience with Google products.

This statement is imprecise. Youtube creators, for example, hold a similar view.

Grandma doesn't make decisions about what cloud platform to use, or where to host content. Among key decision-makers, distrust of Google is widespread.

Google will do fine in search (at least until / unless it's disrupted by Bing or DDG), Android, email, and in other consumer products. Where this will eventually kill Google is in B2B: GCP, Google Workspace, etc.

[iLoveOncall]

> Youtube creators, for example, hold a similar view

I think the fact that they are called "Youtube creators" and not "Video creators" highlights how weak the argument is.

[DougN7]

You seem to be a Google apologist. Just because a platform is currently the biggest and most dominant hardly means it has trust and love. YouTube is the Windows of video platforms.