[timellis-smith]

You do know that global land use for agriculture has peaked and certainly in the UK energy usage peaked in 2005.

All this while the world is greening.

Most of the developed world too has declining birth rates.

So I would hardly call it an ever expanding consumption.

[swalling]

You're totally correct at the demographic level. Probably the best trend for tigers is the fact that India and China are getting richer and people will consequently be having fewer kids. It will result in less pressure on habitat and hopefully less demand for things like traditional Chinese medicine products made out of tigers.

I was mostly reacting to the hypocrisy of the kind of Western liberal who would crucify a trophy hunter online, but who flies all over the world for vacation and buys Shein hauls to post on TikTok. The personal consumption choices of rich people are still driving a lot of environmental degradation. Hating hunters is more of a liberal tribal shibboleth than a meaningful way to have impact on global biodiversity.

[timellis-smith]

I agree with you on this. And yes, rising living standards will hopefully make people care more about their environment.

I also agree with you on the individual level with increasingly larger cars etc..