[hezralig]

I have never, not once, been held up by a side-show in San Francisco. I did have to wait 5 minutes to cross the street to get to the farmer's market at the Embarcadero while a motorcycle brigade zoomed up the street.

The only side-shows I have seen have been in Oakland and even further into the East Bay.

With that being said, I have witnessed Cruise cars lovingly tapping j-walking pedestrians and traffic abiding cyclists around the lower Haight. I have also seen self-driving cars block buses and the street car.

[zecken]

I wasn't trying to be hyperbolic, I've only been delayed by a side show once in my neighborhood by the Chase center -- I've never been blocked by a self driving car. I'm sure everyone has different experiences, but the characterization the article tries to make that these vehicles are a menace to society strike me as overblown and contradictory to many people's lived experiences here. At least these folks are paying money to treat the city like a playground. I haven't seen anyone get love tapped by one of the self-driving cars, but if that's happening regularly it seems like a pretty serious problem.

[hezralig]

I moved out of the state during the pandemic when I bought a house in the PNW, however, I am mostly surprised to hear there are sideshows happening in SF after living there for over a decade.

As for the Cruise cars, I believe they were still being trained so were not carrying passengers yet. They might have ironed out the kinks.

[whimsicalism]

There are lots of sideshows in the Mission, Castro, Potrero Hill, Mission Bay, SOMA, but yeah not as many in the Haight area.

> I have witnessed Cruise cars lovingly tapping j-walking pedestrians

I live in the lower Haight as well and have never personally witnessed that, but don't doubt that it happens. The non-self driving cars here don't interact with the Wiggle super well either though.

[hezralig]

The only side shows in the Mission I can recall happened when I first moved to San Francisco. The streets were closed for the annual street fair though.