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by threatofrain 1165 days ago
> Generally speaking, people who are unwilling to ensure the accuracy of their work don't deserve the privilege to do that work.

This is all volunteer labor. Anyone can be a volunteer if they'd like. Wikipedia encourages mistakes (or "boldness") and assumes that due to a network of volunteers and the density of interest, an article will eventually become better.

Programming docs in open source often have errors. Do the volunteers not deserve the "privilege" of offering their time for free?

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> This is all volunteer labor. Anyone can be a volunteer if they'd like. Wikipedia encourages mistakes (or "boldness") and assumes that due to a network of volunteers and the density of interest, an article will eventually become better.

The accuracy of an article depends on the effort (or ability) for contributors to check facts more than its "density of interest". In other words, experts find this easier than amateurs, and for most topics I think many would rather see no article than a crap one. Also worth a conjecture that the interest in writing cannot possibly always be equal to the interest in reading for all topics. If true this is perhaps the ugliest aspect of Wikipedia.

> Programming docs in open source often have errors. Do the volunteers not deserve the "privilege" of offering their time for free?

This is a non sequitur and I don't think I can answer it. What I will say is that the code review process for a pull request usually includes making sure docs are updated accordingly. Much of that documentation might even be automatically generated from structured comments and validated by passing tests such as in API docs. Humans still of course review after that which mistakes even less likely especially since everyone involved is writing about their own work.

> [...] for most topics I think many would rather see no article than a crap one.

I'm sure that many people would support just the opposite. And in the case of Wikipedia, it is even more probable: the first person who finds the weak points in an article can (and often does) add comments (or - nowadays - opinions on the discussion page), which usually instigate discussion and corrections.

Of course, in the case of scientific articles, the practices are different, and your statement holds. However, IMO Wikipedia only struggles to get as close as possible to the role of a real encyclopedia, and definitely isn't (and won't be) Asimov's Encyclopedia Galactica.

> What I will say is that the code review process for a pull request usually includes making sure docs are updated accordingly. Much of that documentation might even be automatically generated from structured comments and validated by passing tests such as in API docs.

I’ve contributed code to a few open source projects…this is true for exactly zero of them — blender, at least, tried to have accurate python documentation.

Have you tried a simple edit of an article? It'll get reverted under a reference to some policy that links to some giant body of in-group norms for Wiki.
Yes, my math and CS edits on Wikipedia tend to be durable, sometimes more durable than I'd like as I would've wanted a professional in the field to take over. It took me a few hours over the course of a week to appreciate the collection of pros and cons which keeps technical Wikipedia to be what it is.