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by prepend 1163 days ago
Yeah, but it’s good for workers. The union members sacrifice for the greater good and are still benefiting the worker (just jot them). So they are resulting in better worker benefits.

Or maybe Apple is just doing what they were going to do anyway to attract and retain workers and they are restricted from changing the benefits agreed to by the union bargaining agreement.
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kadoban 1163 days ago
> Yeah, but it’s good for workers. The union members sacrifice for the greater good and are still benefiting the worker (just jot them). So they are resulting in better worker benefits.

In the short term it's good for the workers. After it kills off the union, it'll go back to being bad.

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qwytw 1163 days ago
Aren't Apple's retail workers relatively well off in most ways? (compared to others in similar jobs obviously)
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oh_sigh 1163 days ago
But anyone can still unionize at any time, so it isn't much lost.
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anigbrowl 1163 days ago
LOL, LMAO

It's hard to form a union in the US. Companies do things like retaliating against organizers, messing with the election process, forcing workers to sit through mandatory HR briefings etc. Most unionization attempts are fought by companies who refuse to give countenance to the idea that employees should be able to delegate the business of negotiation. American business practice is to keep employees feeling as if they're in competition to each other for the affections of management. The moment workers try to avail themselves of the benefits of a corporate model (specialization, delegation, efficiency) it's treated as some sort of betrayal.

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oh_sigh 1163 days ago
Fine then, forming a union for apple employees would be no harder than it was before.
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kadoban 1163 days ago
> Fine then, forming a union for apple employees would be no harder than it was before.

Which was, very hard. It takes a long time and a lot of effort.

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catiopatio 1162 days ago
> American business practice is to keep employees feeling as if they're in competition to each other for the affections of management

… they literally are in competition with each other, though.

If I provide more value to my employer than other employees, I’m worth more, and can negotiate for more.

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anigbrowl 1162 days ago
It depends on the job. If you're part of a team then cohesion and harmony matter as well.
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