[atchoo]

That isn't how it works.

The mature businesses dial up the greed when there is no competition and dial it down to crush threats. Once the threat is extinguished, up the dial goes again.

Along with all your startup costs, you will be competing against entrenched businesses willing to run at a temporary loss to bleed you dry. They can afford to do this because greed will pay after you are dead.

Capitalism does not create efficient competitive markets offering good value to consumers, government intervention does.

[kortilla]

>The mature businesses dial up the greed when there is no competition and dial it down to crush threats. Once the threat is extinguished, up the dial goes again.

You’ve just described what is called “competition”. Having to lower prices to keep up with competitors.

Also, if there is a clear winning pattern of a single player takes all market, that’s super attractive to competitor investors because they only need to outlast your warchest.

What you’ve described is a very unstable game theoretic condition and it’s basically a non-issue everywhere in the US except for markets with regulatory capture (i.e. high government regulation).

I challenge you to point out an example of a one grocery-store city where that strategy has worked to keep competitors out.

[andrewjl]

> You’ve just described what is called “competition”. Having to lower prices to keep up with competitors.

Suppose a larger company is selling a product that competes with yours at a loss so as to undercut you due to other sources of profit. Do you think that sort of competition is fair? Does that result in the best product winning the most market share?

> I challenge you to point out an example of a one grocery-store city where that strategy has worked to keep competitors out.

Not the GP, but recommend The Wal-Mart Effect by Charles Fishman.

[jmvfivtvtvtgt]

In my area, there are Indian, Japanese and Chinese grocery stores within a few miles of Costco and Trader Joe's. Considering these grocery stores are decades old, Costco and Trader Joe's have done a bad job at dialing up the greed.

[danaris]

First of all, from what I've heard, Costco and Trader Joe's are, at worst, middle of the pack among large companies as far as greed goes. And assuming incorrectly that the thesis is that all large corporations are equally greedy, then using a couple of specific examples of corporations that are less greedy to disprove it, just makes for a terrible argument.

Second, it's exactly that kind of differentiation (offering a niche product that the larger, more generic stores don't want to) that makes it easiest to avoid being undercut and run out of business by larger players.

Now, if you said you had several different small local grocery stores thriving without any specific niche, that would be somewhat more surprising.

[jvmfjvfjvflkj]

So why can't fully greedy companies undercut half-greedy Costco and Trader Joe's? When exactly have "greedy" supermarkets driven out smaller competitors through price manipulation? Please be specific.