[augment001]

Honestly, that’s not an explanation.

If one of your neighbors was beating up and stealing from another of your neighbors, are your really saying you’d cosy up to them? By this logic you’d expect Finland to be Russia’s best friend.

I am critical of the Chinese system of government, but I’d never think of them as cowards.

[revolvingocelot]

>By this logic you’d expect Finland to be Russia’s best friend

"Finlandization is the process by which one powerful country makes a smaller neighboring country refrain from opposing the former's foreign policy rules, while allowing it to keep its nominal independence and its own political system. [...] The Finnish political cartoonist Kari Suomalainen once explained Finlandization as "the art of bowing to the East without mooning the West"." [0]

The Soviet Union's collapse allowed Finland to spread its wings a bit more broadly, but it's worth pointing out that yes, Finland was cozying up to the Soviet Union like mad, in order to best survive their physical proximity. The logic does seem to check out, at least while the bogeyman of the USSR still shambled around.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization

[endisneigh]

Is China cozying up to Russia? By what metric, and for reference, using the same metric, how much is the United States, and other countries "cozying" up?

[seanmcdirmid]

Xi expressed China's unconditional support for Russia, and then Xi's foreign minister later came back and said that the unconditional support was actually conditional. So they are actually playing the whole conflict from both sides, which is much more of a traditional Chinese position.

[endisneigh]

Kind of like how (some) Republicans support Russia indirectly by criticizing the Ukraine war expenses from the USA's behalf, yet continuing to vote for the arms deals.

[augment001]

Not really, unless you think the foreign minister is the one in power.

[augment001]

I guess you haven’t been watching the news.

[endisneigh]

Please inform me, then. By what metrics is China cozying up with Russia, and what are the same numbers for USA and co?

[augment001]

It’s not my job to inform you. If you don’t think China is supporting Russia’s position then you need to do some reading.

Also, I guess you can’t explain why Finland isn’t Russia’s best friend despite bordering Russia.

[endisneigh]

Don't make claims you can't back up, lol.

[augment001]

You first. This whole ‘metrics’ question is a distraction.

If you can explain why your argument doesn’t apply to Finland, I’ll point you to a news report showing China’s support for Russia.