[rayrag]

Your landing page is ugly to be honest, half of links in the footer goes nowhere - this is unprofessional and lazy. There's no clickable demo, not even overview of components. Why do you lauch your product at current state? Why submit it to HN?

There are plenty of other web builders based on Tailwind or Bootstrap, often they have free tiers, and you're charging 249$, for what? For 300$ you can get Tailwindui* from creators of Tailwindcss or something like Shuffle.dev that has components for Tailwind/Bootstrap/Bulma.

https://tailwindui.com/

https://shuffle.dev/

[TIPSIO]

> Why submit to HN?

For brutally honest feedback from stereotypical grumpy developers, clearly.

OP, stay positive and good luck. However, I agree and think this does need some improvement all around to be more useful.

Keep building and iterating. Congratulations on launch!

[harrisreynolds]

Thanks for the positive response. It does need a good be of improvement but I really just needed to draw a line in the sand and get this launched to get feedback!!!

[DangitBobby]

I'll give you more specific criticism. I'm not gonna sign up until I've read something that shows me the workflow and I've imagined that it could make my life much easier. Even if there's a free trial, I don't want to sign up for another thing without first confirming there's a chance I'll actually use it.

[lghh]

> Why do you lauch your product at current state?

Launching as-is and iterating is totally fine IMO. Either they get some users now, much earlier than they would have if they waited, or nothing happens. At worst, it is neutral to not launching. The upside is much higher.

[harrisreynolds]

Yes... that is how I was thinking about it. The feedback is invaluable even if it is negative because that provides some clarity on exactly what to fix first!

I will be doing some serious iterating over the next few weeks to get more polish on it before doing a Product Hunt launch.

But HN is a great place to get early feedback in my opinion.

Thank you for the comment!

[ANaimi]

You're a rude person. Your keyboard should be confiscated for a month until you learn to be nice.

[harrisreynolds]

Well... his tone was a bit harsh. If anyone saw how much I worked to get this far they definitely wouldn't call me lazy.

But I get it... strangers have no reason to trust you and the bar is REALLY HIGH these days even for an MVP.

But thank you for reminding us of the importance of being nice! This world does need a whole lot more LOVE and KINDNESS in it.

Check out the Values section of this template:

https://www.webase.com/template-preview/vanilla-landing-page...

One thing I really want to do with WeBase is spread POSITIVITY and ENCOURAGEMENT around the Internet!!

[biorach]

> Why do you lauch your product at current state? Why submit it to HN?

Keep it constructive - you're being a dick.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

If one finds themself thinking this comment is not constructive, I would suggest that the 3 words at the start are considered. Even if one thinks that those last 4 should have been more carefully chosen, you can bet those first 3 are a useful suggestion.

[HL33tibCe7]

“Ugly” is very harsh tbh. I think it looks fine. Although I agree not breathtaking.

[harrisreynolds]

You are right here. It needs to be breathtaking!

One feature I want to add soon is some animations. Just a few animations can add some polish.

We also need to steer away from the heavy use of cards and be a bit more creative.

This feedback is really helpful!

[_448]

> Your landing page is ugly to be honest, half of links in the footer goes nowhere - this is unprofessional and lazy. There's no clickable demo, not even overview of components. Why do you lauch your product at current state? Why submit it to HN?

We don't know what the age, experience, circumstances, constraints of the OP is. Why jump straight away into using strong words?

[harrisreynolds]

Yeah... there is always more to the story than what we see on the surface... and it was an aggressive comment.

Honestly I knew the missing links in the footer was lame but just wanted to get some feedback and was tired of delaying "talking to potential users"!!

Now I will have renewed energy to fix these things!

And frankly I am glad I did... it made it to the front page of Hacker News for over two hours so at least people are interested even if it needs more polish!

Thank you for speaking up!

[harrisreynolds]

100% on the links in the footer not going anywhere. I will get that fixed ASAP.

The beauty is that since WeBase has several components and pre-built pages it will be easy! :-)

I do believe there is a market for this... just needs more polish and I need to highlight the features better (components, ChatGPT integration etc).

[KaoruAoiShiho]

Are these 2 the best? Any other choices out there?

[harrisreynolds]

This a good question. Tailwind UI is really nice but it is for developers and requires a developer to benefit from the templates.

Shuffle.dev is also nice but again... it is for developers and doesn't support hosting and lots of other features I'd expect from a UI Builder in 2023.

WeBase is the first tool that I know of to bring the power of TailwindCSS to non-developers.

[cyansmoker]

It's a UI builder, not a set of components.

But you're right that they built a pretty ugly landing page. Especially the color palette and fonts selection. I don' think this should detract from the service offered, so I hope they fix this quick.

[rayrag]

> It's a UI builder, not a set of components.

I think it's UI builder that has predefined set of components that user can customise - globally (by customising 'theme' - font family, primary colors etc) or per component (padding, margins, overwriting theme settings). From these components user creates pages/templates. User can create there own components if they want so that's good.

Bu OP doesn't show those predefined components even as images, ever more there's no information how many components there are. And predefined components are important feature of most web builders as they can save a lot of time. Also well designed components (good color scheme, typography, spacing) helps develovers without design skills.

[harrisreynolds]

You are right that I need to just do a WAY better job of showing the product on the home page.

I honestly just needed to get this out to the world so I can hear comments like these to make sure I am focusing on the right things!

Thank you for the comments!!

[harrisreynolds]

There is a lot of subjectivity into what makes a great landing page but I am sure you are right that the current version can be improved.

Thank you for the feedback!!