[LynxInLA]

You still have to pay your taxes, including writing a check or getting a return at the end of the process. This just cuts out the billions of wasted hours of busywork along with the billions of dollars spent on unnecessary tax prep.

Plus, most people end up with a return, and many think they are getting money back from the government. Doesn't that counter your reminder/pain of actually filling out the forms?

[nemo44x]

No because the day will come when each individual is not getting a return. I have more than a couple friends that were very pro taxes until the day came they were real payers. Their attitudes changed very quickly.

[LynxInLA]

Okay, did they change their attitudes because they owed money or because they spent 20 hours filing their taxes?

[notch898a]

My attitude changed a lot more once I had a kid. I was never a big tax fan, but once you have a kid and realize

1) You pay the daycare

2) You pay the birth

3) You pay the food

4) You pay the healthcare

....

basically the list goes on, and all along society tells you to get fucked. Society isn't there unless maybe you let your kid walk alone to the park so they can have the slightest shred of confidence and then they arrest you for "neglect." It's not "we're a society we'll work together" -- no its "on your own you dumb fucker, by the way dont abort or you'll be in jail for murder." As soon as you raise the kid, suddenly society says "Look we need to take 30% of the kids stuff, including for retirement of everyone else" no matter that society straight up told you to get fucked for the costs of raising the child up to become someone who can pay the taxes.

It's that way with everything in the US. We pour money straight into Israel and get nothing in return. Blow up brown kids with drones only to have the world hate us.

Taxes are theft. I'd rather live with McScrooge evilCo that requires a toll every time I enter the road than this fucking dystopia where my tax money goes to blowing up innocent people around the world and the world's highest prison rate.

[icehawk]

Sounds less of a reason not to have taxes and more of a reason not to have kids

[LynxInLA]

Ok, but this thread isn't about the actual value of the taxes. This is just about the waste of time that is filing taxes.

[kelnos]

This is a fine example of the slippery-slope fallacy.