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by lotsofpulp 1170 days ago
In the age of broadband internet mobile phones, in the most “advanced” country in the world with the most “qualified” people, it took 45min+ to verify if they have illegally detained the right person or not?

A simple call to a supervisor to confirm if the role player is who they are talking should have fixed this in less than 2min.

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I think that just means it took them over 35-40 mins to even realize they might have the wrong person.

Which ironically goes to prove that their interrogation tactics are basically crap, considering it took over 40 mins to realize they got the wrong person.

Which is not surprising at all, because it really does seem US law enforcement agencies seem to base their tactics more on shows like 24 as opposed to what actually works (I’ve had a conversation with a hostage specialist trainer, and the most shocking part to me was when he told me they spend almost no time on de-escalation training).

The victim is a pilot, it is safe to assume they spoke English and told the agents they are mistaken immediately when they woke him up.
Which is just what the perp would say! /s

But seriously, if that's what the training is supposed to be... Not that it's justified (it's not, in my opinion) but at least more understandable in this case.

(Obviously the problem is "what the training is supposed to be".)

Maybe they should use a danger word, one that has to be spoken to signal everything's fine.
>A simple call to a supervisor to confirm if the role player is who they are talking should have fixed this in less than 2min.

Why would you call your supervisor if you believe the role player is role playing someone you should interrogate?

First you need to have a doubt about that person being the role player, but them denying that they are who they are might seem like the expected response.

At most I could imagine the person in the other room, expecting a "surprise" interrogation might be wondering why nobody has been knocking on their door for 45 minutes. But maybe they don't know when the exact moment should be.

Because in a non training scenario, if a suspect claims they are not who the authorities think they are, there should be some effort made by the authorities to ensure they are not violating the rights of an innocent person.

Especially when it should be as simple as texting a photo and name of the actual suspect back and forth within seconds. Or maybe in this case, it would be verifying the hotel room number.

Either way, this verification step does not seem like it should take 45min+.