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by raverbashing 1175 days ago
How many of those are just a minor prompt + API call to OpenAI?
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The challenge of building, running, and growing a startup is rarely building some novel algorithm or complex machine. You can reduce almost all SaaS businesses down to "It's just a UI and a database!" if you want to, and many developers do. That only shows how easy it is to over-simplify things.

My first startup was literally just some Javascript and a Postgres database. It didn't even call any external services, let alone one that's truly on the bleeding edge of computer science. I still thought it was a viable business (wrongly, it turned out, but still... I had a dream!).

I find it funny some people being dismissive of what they built to defend the AI startups

"Some JavaScript and a DB" is a web service. It does stuff. Sure if it's small or a basic crud then the moat is small

But if I can replace the value proposition of a startup with "open chatgpt and type a short prompt" then there's not much value in it right. Maybe if there's value in the surrounding services.

If the business is literally just sending data to GPT and outputting the response then sure, but I've not seen any businesses trying that yet. Pretty much everything I've seen to date is "A CRUD app with GPT to fill in blank data". That's automatically more valuable than just a CRUD app.
That's ok.

This is how many successful businesses operate in the "atoms" world.

You take a product or service that's already popular and has a solid channel for distribution, you transform it or add additional value to it and sell it for a profit.

Think about a $8 precut, packaged pineapple at the grocery store.

Once you get your business going and get additional funding or generate cash flow, you can invest in getting rid of some of the middlemen so that you can take their profits too (start growing your own pineapples).

Sounds pretty straightforward, but the selling part is the difficult one.

Yes, I am aware, and I agree

The value proposition to the sliced pineapple is the time and skill to do it. Sure, it's "cheap" to do it at home (if your time is free and you have a good knife - I pay way less than $8 though ;) )

While I do believe there are startups with good value added, I think a lot of people are just throwing a simple call with very little thought added. And while the service is sellable, your moat is how easy people can duplicate it.

Is your service a product or a feature? If it's a feature OpenAI can just add it to their systems in a day

Is comparing to atoms world a good comparison though?

Especially when these products can be built by a school student in an hour using ChatGPT?

I think the barrier of entry to atoms world companies are quite higher than that.

I guess my point was we see examples everyday in the atoms world where people take an existing product, do some trivial work around it and create a multi million dollar business.

Generally yes, software is usually easier, although today you can start a new brand of vodka or cosmetics from your computer.

Customers acquisition is equally difficult for both though, so sales and marketing is where the secret sauce and differentiation is now, not so much in the codebase, I think.

Look, you’re not going to get investor money to train an LLM and scrape a ton of data sources at this stage

Is what it is

Probably more than 90%?